broke yet?

[madds87]

Ok i was fine on my paycheck. but once those new taxes started coming in and now im going to have to pay more for my health insurance, im going to be almost 50/50 on taxes and what i actually get to take home....

[zodiiac523]

**** dude, i have not checked any of my stubs since we had to start doing direct deposit at my work, they probably been ****ing me for a while now and me not even knowing..

[BigBeazy]

Im single, not real deductables or anything and im getting almost two hundred out of like 800$ ****ed out of me every two weeks...

[youngandfree]

As Obama said last night "this is what Change looks like.".

Get used to it. Its going to get worse before it gets better. Just ask your parents or grandparents what it was like during the Carter administration. Oh and don't forget you are mandated by the Federal government to buy insurance or face a fine by the IRS.

[lennoxchi]

Ok i was fine on my paycheck. but once those new taxes started coming in and now im going to have to pay more for my health insurance, im going to be almost 50/50 on taxes and what i actually get to take home....

then add another 20% BEFORE TAXES taken out for child support....$555.70 per month. and people ask why i don'town a house yet

[Zero V]

then add another 20% BEFORE TAXES taken out for child support....$555.70 per month. and people ask why i don'town a house yet

Damn, sorry bro. That sucks royally.




Yes this is what change looks like....Whats funny is I just had a very conservative friend of mine send me mail (and this guy is anti-war, very political, very well educated...honestly a genius with a great understanding of politics, economics, etc) that made me smile...


It said "The time for secession draws ever closer" and he went into a long bit about how bad things are getting, and the abuse of power and about how the government is pushing their people to the limits.

Honestly...I always hoopla and rant about a revolution coming and all that good redneck stuff. Just me being me, ranting.

Double honestly....to see a guy like this change his mind....yeah, wow...actually kind of encouraging. Alot of people are getting fed up with crap. This is why the next set of unconstitutional acts will be disarming American citizens(losing our guns). Thank God for Vietnam vets, and other war vets, and crazy rednecks who all know how to level an entire city with just the contents under your sink LOL.

What sucks is Obama's internet security bullcrap.(I think that security act of 2010 passed right?) I probably been on a black list for God knows how long


Can anyone state all of the reasons for which Minutemen were created and the Redcoats were sent a running? Why was there a Boston Tea Party? What was the purpose of the Sons of Liberty? To prevent.... THIS



We failed our founding fathers and the blood they shed...

Seriously are there so few good men and women willing to get into politics and take down these bills? Are there so few good people left that we cant overtake the house and senate over time with non-corrupt people, and start repairing our nations integrity? Why cant we, for the life of us, get a real president who actually cares? And why is it that every single citizen could write their respective senators, and they still wont follow the peoples ruling, and make their own depending on their needs... WTF, this is no longer a democracy. I agree the common man today is probably stupid, uninformed, and a sheep succeptable to media blitzing and the likes. But come on now, are we really this stupid as a whole to get spoon fed bullcrap for years and never stand up, rip the spoon out of the hand and say "you try it good sir" and shove it down their throat?

I am not saying do anything stupid, but why cant we get people into offices and positions to actually help our nation. Its like in order to qualify to be a member of congress you have to have a corrupt nature and be as intelligent as a half dead squirrel.

I already dont get paid enough. Which has inspired me to start speeding through school again and get certified as a personal trainer...so guess its a good thing for us who cant accept mediocrity.

[madds87]

Yeah change it the opposite way! make me rich B!T(h! i know my taxes is killing me and now there saying they are going to increase! ouch...... im sick of it thought dude!

[BigBeazy]

Didn't a Healthcare bill get passed last night or something? Im Ignorant In politics even though im currently in a Political economics class in college. The poor get poorer and the Rich get Richer. Thats how it goes man, your best bet is to stay in school, student loan the living **** out of these banks and get yourself a decent job and pay it off later. I make ten dollars an hour, working full time (granted it isnt hard work) and go to school full time, and going to drop nearly all my money for my girl moving in ect ect. Lifes hard but just man up.

[youngandfree]

Didn't a Healthcare bill get passed last night or something? Im Ignorant In politics even though im currently in a Political economics class in college. The poor get poorer and the Rich get Richer. Thats how it goes man, your best bet is to stay in school, student loan the living **** out of these banks and get yourself a decent job and pay it off later. I make ten dollars an hour, working full time (granted it isnt hard work) and go to school full time, and going to drop nearly all my money for my girl moving in ect ect. Lifes hard but just man up.

Yeah the healthcare bill has a provision that gives control of student loans to the federal government. The Only place to get them is going to be Uncle Sam. And the middle class is getting poorer too.

[slacker86]

My father owns his own buisness in boston (massachusetts already requires everyone to have health care much like what is being passed for the rest of the country now). Last year his health care costs rose 33% and this year they are rising another 11%. He makes a good amount of money but now he is even having trouble making ends meet at some points. He has even lowered the amount of coverage on his insurance and costs are still rising no matter what.

I dont think the rich will get richer. the only thing i have seen in Mass is the rich get poorer the middle class gets poorer and the poorest class gets some more handouts, honestly no one is really winning in this. I wish they looked at what happened to mass before they passed this bill, we went from being one of the most afluent states to undergoing a lot of problems now.

I wanted to start my own buisness this summer and after doing the appropriate research, if i where to do so i could either only hire part time employees, or be the only one working.. Its almost impossible for small buisnesses to maintain or even start in this state now, it really is making things much harder than they used to be.

[BigBeazy]

It's because Its Massachusetts, full of M*******s (Die-Hard Yankee Right here).

But on the topic at hand, I know what you are saying. Small businesses always had a hard time ever since we went into a recession. Simply no one is buying anything.

What kind of business are you trying to open? Im actually majoring in business.

I know, Im young, but i have actually accomplished alot for my age In business sense. I have a widely diversified stock portfolio, I made nearly a hundred thousand with bonds, and I started 2 pizzaria's already.

[slacker86]

It's because Its Massachusetts, full of M*******s (Die-Hard Yankee Right here).

But on the topic at hand, I know what you are saying. Small businesses always had a hard time ever since we went into a recession. Simply no one is buying anything.

What kind of business are you trying to open? Im actually majoring in business.

I know, Im young, but i have actually accomplished alot for my age In business sense. I have a widely diversified stock portfolio, I made nearly a hundred thousand with bonds, and I started 2 pizzaria's already.

Right now im looking into landscaping and landscape architecture and bidding for plowing jobs during the winter. My mother is a cerftifed master gardener out of Mass Horticultural society and knows a lot about the subject. I personally own 3 trucks one a 3500 dually that i can use for work a little bit but as a typical dumb kid i spent all my money on go fast parts and its basicly a show truck and with the money invested in it i cant afford to get it beat up. My other two are both 2500's both with plows and trailers that can easily accomidate lawnmowers and other equiptment. I have 1 lawnmower and 2 weed wackers along with all the little **** needed to do a small jobs, figureing since i already have the most expensive parts (the trucks and trailers) alreaddy covered the start up cost wouldnt be as high as doing something else.

I used to be a mechanic and thats why i have collected so many cars trucks, i used to make 60k a year until the recession hit and i was left out of my job and with no where to go so i went back to college and im about to graduate now, majored in kinesiology.

The mass flower/horticultural show is going on and im talking to a few of the bigger companies to see if they have any good insight as to the market and weather its a good or bad idea as of right now.

The only other options i have is going back to being a mechanic part time or take a huge pay cut, do personal training, or continue with college and im fed up with college so thats out the window. So i was researching a bit into this to see if it was a viable option.

[Harry Manback]

Gotta roll with the punches.

[dusty]

Damn, sorry bro. That sucks royally.




Yes this is what change looks like....Whats funny is I just had a very conservative friend of mine send me mail (and this guy is anti-war, very political, very well educated...honestly a genius with a great understanding of politics, economics, etc) that made me smile...


It said "The time for secession draws ever closer" and he went into a long bit about how bad things are getting, and the abuse of power and about how the government is pushing their people to the limits.

Honestly...I always hoopla and rant about a revolution coming and all that good redneck stuff. Just me being me, ranting.

Double honestly....to see a guy like this change his mind....yeah, wow...actually kind of encouraging. Alot of people are getting fed up with crap. This is why the next set of unconstitutional acts will be disarming American citizens(losing our guns). Thank God for Vietnam vets, and other war vets, and crazy rednecks who all know how to level an entire city with just the contents under your sink LOL.

What sucks is Obama's internet security bullcrap.(I think that security act of 2010 passed right?) I probably been on a black list for God knows how long


Can anyone state all of the reasons for which Minutemen were created and the Redcoats were sent a running? Why was there a Boston Tea Party? What was the purpose of the Sons of Liberty? To prevent.... THIS



We failed our founding fathers and the blood they shed...

Seriously are there so few good men and women willing to get into politics and take down these bills? Are there so few good people left that we cant overtake the house and senate over time with non-corrupt people, and start repairing our nations integrity? Why cant we, for the life of us, get a real president who actually cares? And why is it that every single citizen could write their respective senators, and they still wont follow the peoples ruling, and make their own depending on their needs... WTF, this is no longer a democracy. I agree the common man today is probably stupid, uninformed, and a sheep succeptable to media blitzing and the likes. But come on now, are we really this stupid as a whole to get spoon fed bullcrap for years and never stand up, rip the spoon out of the hand and say "you try it good sir" and shove it down their throat?

I am not saying do anything stupid, but why cant we get people into offices and positions to actually help our nation. Its like in order to qualify to be a member of congress you have to have a corrupt nature and be as intelligent as a half dead squirrel.

I already dont get paid enough. Which has inspired me to start speeding through school again and get certified as a personal trainer...so guess its a good thing for us who cant accept mediocrity.

Your exactly right. I wrote my senator about this new bill about supplements about two months ago and i havent heard a word back.

And all this bull about taxing the rich more...what our wonderful president is trying to implement is an idea of progressive socialism. The rich are rich for a reason. Im not wealthy by any means, but this is my view on what the country is headed to.

[Harry Manback]

...unfortunately it all falls upon deaf ears.

[purelife1]

i know where you guys are coming from..taxes suck..im working 72-80 hours week to make ends meet..child support $860 month..ive dropped my health insurance etc..my wife and kids have health insurance and my daughter i pay child support on is insured through her moms job but i work 7 days a week and struggle to survive.....

[Resolve]

Geez, I didn't realize how fortunate I was. I'm a grad student working on a training grant and fellowship - I make <$30k/year but I paid next to no taxes this past year and I'm getting a $1200 refund and I get all health/dental/vision covered for free.

Not saying this to rub it in anyones faces - I just honestly didn't realize how good I have it. Look into furthering your education guys; it apparently can be quite worth it!

[alabamayankee]

Didn't a Healthcare bill get passed last night or something? Im Ignorant In politics even though im currently in a Political economics class in college. The poor get poorer and the Rich get Richer. Thats how it goes man, your best bet is to stay in school, student loan the living **** out of these banks and get yourself a decent job and pay it off later. I make ten dollars an hour, working full time (granted it isnt hard work) and go to school full time, and going to drop nearly all my money for my girl moving in ect ect. Lifes hard but just man up.

Who do you think is paying for the new healthcare and over 60% of the taxes now???? The rich or the less than 10% of america that makes $250,000 or more a year. So you think its right for me to have to pay more money to provide healthcare to a scumbag that has 10 kids doesnt have a job and has an attitude that the government will save me. Thats the reason were in this in the first place to many people depending on the government. I respect the hell out of the working class and they are also going to get a bit of a pinch due to this bill. I feel bad for the pre-existing health condition folks that cant get healthcare but i feel nothing for the low lifes that wont go make 10 bucks an hour because they can sit home and collect almost 8 bucks an hour from the system to sit on there butt and do nothing. the bill is going ot result in the rich not investing more due to the fact if they do invest there going to get taxed another 4% on any earnings they make on top of the fact that for every dollar i make i pay more than 50 cents back to the system. the whole system sucks and obama is doing exactly what he said spreading the wealth. he wants everyone to live the same. So because you went to college and have a good career means you should live the same as the person that had 6 kids by 17 and has no job??????

[youngandfree]

Who do you think is paying for the new healthcare and over 60% of the taxes now???? The rich or the less than 10% of america that makes $250,000 or more a year. So you think its right for me to have to pay more money to provide healthcare to a scumbag that has 10 kids doesnt have a job and has an attitude that the government will save me. Thats the reason were in this in the first place to many people depending on the government. I respect the hell out of the working class and they are also going to get a bit of a pinch due to this bill. I feel bad for the pre-existing health condition folks that cant get healthcare but i feel nothing for the low lifes that wont go make 10 bucks an hour because they can sit home and collect almost 8 bucks an hour from the system to sit on there butt and do nothing. the bill is going ot result in the rich not investing more due to the fact if they do invest there going to get taxed another 4% on any earnings they make on top of the fact that for every dollar i make i pay more than 50 cents back to the system. the whole system sucks and obama is doing exactly what he said spreading the wealth. he wants everyone to live the same. So because you went to college and have a good career means you should live the same as the person that had 6 kids by 17 and has no job??????

Amen Brother! The rich got rich by working hard and taking risks that paid off. I know some very wealthy people that worked real hard for a long time and now have 7 figure ongoing income.

What I don't understand is all the wealthy libs that support redistribution of wealth when they are going to be affected. Granted, it will have less impact on their lifestyle, but just doesn't make sense to me. Why would you support things that punish the wealthy when you are wealthy? And I'm not talking about shady politicians, just normal high class high income people.

[BigBeazy]

Right now im looking into landscaping and landscape architecture and bidding for plowing jobs during the winter. My mother is a cerftifed master gardener out of Mass Horticultural society and knows a lot about the subject. I personally own 3 trucks one a 3500 dually that i can use for work a little bit but as a typical dumb kid i spent all my money on go fast parts and its basicly a show truck and with the money invested in it i cant afford to get it beat up. My other two are both 2500's both with plows and trailers that can easily accomidate lawnmowers and other equiptment. I have 1 lawnmower and 2 weed wackers along with all the little **** needed to do a small jobs, figureing since i already have the most expensive parts (the trucks and trailers) alreaddy covered the start up cost wouldnt be as high as doing something else.

I used to be a mechanic and thats why i have collected so many cars trucks, i used to make 60k a year until the recession hit and i was left out of my job and with no where to go so i went back to college and im about to graduate now, majored in kinesiology.

The mass flower/horticultural show is going on and im talking to a few of the bigger companies to see if they have any good insight as to the market and weather its a good or bad idea as of right now.

The only other options i have is going back to being a mechanic part time or take a huge pay cut, do personal training, or continue with college and im fed up with college so thats out the window. So i was researching a bit into this to see if it was a viable option.

I used to work for a landscaping company called Russo and Sons. They made alot of money by getting contracts from big land owners, perticually a publix shopping center. Look into resorts, anything. Talk and find out information. There isn't any money in home land care unless you have a over a hundred propertys being cut every two weeks. Hire a bunch of high schoolers or laborers for roughly 30-40$ a day cash and there is your employment. Keep a few friends on payroll and you should be fine.