LC: Seriously... dropping 80 lbs in 5 months naturally without loosing "hardly any" muscle is 4 lbs a week constant... Unless he was very obese at the time (around my old size or bigger proportionally) IMHO.
If you would have read up on my threads for my cycles.. what I achieved in adding strength and good size on those... maybe the "slower" timeline would be "acceptable" to you. I've ALWAYS focused on building muscle or maintaining it, and then loosing fat... has it made my progress slower... probably... but I'm fine with where I am, and where I'm going.
Many people who end up juicing are of the leaner variety, because it is their type that gets into the fitness working out thing earlier... unfortuanetly for the heavier people, we are shunned from using these things, even if we have similar LBM (with way more fat) than the lean guys using them to purely bulk up... They are amazing cutting tools as well...