140 to 155 to 175 SOLID

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    well spawn is out of the question IMO. If you are wanting strength and not size why not just go natural with something like Prime or IGF-2? There is no PCT required, a larger strength to mass gain ratio (than mass to strength gain), great libido. That would be my route to take with your goals.

    I have yet to use a 19-nor PH product, but I have read they either go great or terrible on cycle. It really depends with how sensitive you (from reading and cycle logs I have looked at), and I have read they are not the best cycle to PCT off of (libido wise).

    As for Epi/Havoc or Hdrol... They are both going to keep you relatively lean, low sides, and fairly easy to recover from (generally). Neither for the majority amount on major mass or huge strength gains, but I do think that if you were going to go for a cycle that these are what you are wanting.
    thanks man, good thought, its nice to finally get some help around here haha


  2. That 5 deca zol stuff you were looking into, is that the stuff by legal limit labs? If so, stay away. I had a bout with that before and not much good came of it. Yes I put on desecent size and yes I got stronger but at the cost of massive high blood pressure and severe headaches. I had to stop lifting all together and take almost a month off. I did maintain some of my size but I am not built like you and am much older.
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  3. If you got this far without using then imagine how much more mass you can pack on if you push another 10-15 lbs on to your body naturally then use the steriod.

    Ill bet you will appreciate it more and maintain it longer. But, of course, who am I to tell you how to achieve.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by rab71 View Post
    That 5 deca zol stuff you were looking into, is that the stuff by legal limit labs? If so, stay away. I had a bout with that before and not much good came of it. Yes I put on desecent size and yes I got stronger but at the cost of massive high blood pressure and severe headaches. I had to stop lifting all together and take almost a month off. I did maintain some of my size but I am not built like you and am much older.
    i took it and f***ing loved it, felt like a beast in the gym, about 8 pounds dry gain and gnarly strength without a single side, before ppl like this guy ^ post something like this, knocking a sup, you have to rememeber everyones bodys are different, this being a perfect example. Not being harsh to you man ^ just am sick of ppl talking like everyones body and genetics works the same way

  5. Quote Originally Posted by rockNrolla View Post
    i took it and f***ing loved it, felt like a beast in the gym, about 8 pounds dry gain and gnarly strength without a single side, before ppl like this guy ^ post something like this, knocking a sup, you have to rememeber everyones bodys are different, this being a perfect example. Not being harsh to you man ^ just am sick of ppl talking like everyones body and genetics works the same way
    Yes, but in the same breath, you have to admit that your accomplishments with this substance may not be his. He may have unsuccessful runs with that drug where as you had a successful run. So, in reality, the same can be said for both sides. You may have had it great, it may suck for him, or it may be awesome.

    Just some tidbits to think about...
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  6. i took it and f***ing loved it, felt like a beast in the gym, about 8 pounds dry gain and gnarly strength without a single side, before ppl like this guy ^ post something like this, knocking a sup, you have to rememeber everyones bodys are different, this being a perfect example. Not being harsh to you man ^ just am sick of ppl talking like everyones body and genetics works the same way
    Hey there young pup, just tryin' to help you out a bit. That is a methylated product that filters through your liver. You should have your blood drawn and run some tests. That stuff will ruin your liver given the opportunity. Not to mention do a search you will find more harm than good from that product. I was young once too and didn't think about the future.

    Look, I made great gains as well. I'm under 5'7" (not by much) and don't weigh much either but while on that stuff I benched 300. 315 to be exact. I'm not saying it doesn't work I'm just saying look out. Next time if you don't want to hear it don't ask.

    I meant to ask, what does your PCT look like? At 21 (20) you could really mess up your endocrine as well. Just a thought.

  7. yea sorry bud i didnt mean to come off like that , u and the other guy make a good point and pct wise, which are you asking about, i know my next cycle im gettin ready to run im using clomid and something for my test levels, just keyholin it right now but almost ready

  8. No problem... I was 21 once too... (Like 100 years ago)... I have heard good and bad about Clomid. I have never used it personally. Did you read the official PCT thread? It has some really good information. I do remember something about Clomid causing emotion outbursts in men... "Cry like a little girl" I think that was the quote.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by rab71 View Post
    No problem... I was 21 once too... (Like 100 years ago)... I have heard good and bad about Clomid. I have never used it personally. Did you read the official PCT thread? It has some really good information. I do remember something about Clomid causing emotion outbursts in men... "Cry like a little girl" I think that was the quote.
    haha yea i read it and a bunch of other ones too, ive never used clomid but have heard good things about it, so im gonna give it a run and hope i can keep myself together from the emo outbursts lol

  10. good job man!!! now put some mass your skinny b!tch lol

  11. pull your pants up man

  12. ^^haha. doesn't matter much now though, the dumb **** is banned.

  13. I was gonna mention phera but i cant

    RIP Phera Tren and BOLD

  14. Quote Originally Posted by n8te View Post
    ^^haha. doesn't matter much now though, the dumb **** is banned.
    Quote Originally Posted by kokobeware2 View Post
    I was gonna mention phera but i cant

    RIP Phera Tren and BOLD
    Im out of the loop...was he banned for underage usage

  15. Dont think so he was 21...?

  16. ??? he was banned? why?

  17. because he wasnt 21 nad kept blabbering like an idiot.
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  18. ^^Also, he was being an ignorant punk, also said he could bench 315 I'm calling shenanigans.

    TomCat - no he was banned for posting before he was 21 in the Anabolics section and actin' a fool. He has a post in the Anabolics section I think it was called Super Spawn Cycle'. A far as I know that thread helped him gain membership to the banned gang.

  19. i agree with gaining weight thats all. abs are sick nasty good work, when im off my bf is only at 8-9 and im same height but weigh 220
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  20. WOAH! amazing job dude!!
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