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  1. Why is Arimistane cut off the graph showing IC50 levels? The name is in green, but I see no green bar and it's clear the top is cut off.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by kaikara View Post
    Why is Arimistane cut off the graph showing IC50 levels? The name is in green, but I see no green bar and it's clear the top is cut off.
    To avoid confusion since "skimmers" will naturally look at Arimistane in the graph for obvious reasons
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post

    Because of the inclusion of the Uncaria extract with the formula ?
    Bump for Coop

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  4. Ready for the epro!

  5. This looks very cool. So this compound will have both AI and GDA effects???
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by cbsharpe View Post
    Does anyone have the cliff notes version of what coop said??? LOL!!
    Basically, better AI inhibition in a cell-based assay compared to a few other common AIs, lowered inflammation levels, and seemingly positive profile on lipids/glucose metabolism.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    To avoid confusion since "skimmers" will naturally look at Arimistane in the graph for obvious reasons
    But for those wanting to compare to Erase/Erase Pro, this is the most relevant. What was the IC50 of arimistane?

    Either way, compound seems interesting and looks even more promising as a cutting agent. Will have to check out some of the other articles posted.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Segansational View Post
    Basically, better AI inhibition in a cell-based assay compared to a few other common AIs, lowered inflammation levels, and seemingly positive profile on lipids/glucose metabolism.



    But for those wanting to compare to Erase/Erase Pro, this is the most relevant. What was the IC50 of arimistane?

    Either way, compound seems interesting and looks even more promising as a cutting agent. Will have to check out some of the other articles posted.
    Thanks amigo!

  8. Great job Cy
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Segansational View Post
    Basically, better AI inhibition in a cell-based assay compared to a few other common AIs, lowered inflammation levels, and seemingly positive profile on lipids/glucose metabolism.



    But for those wanting to compare to Erase/Erase Pro, this is the most relevant. What was the IC50 of arimistane?
    I did a google image search for the rest of the graph. Arimistane is .22. Just slightly better than the new compound at .3.

  10. Would you need to separate the dose away from ara if the two were stacked?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Segansational View Post
    Basically, better AI inhibition in a cell-based assay compared to a few other common AIs, lowered inflammation levels, and seemingly positive profile on lipids/glucose metabolism.



    But for those wanting to compare to Erase/Erase Pro, this is the most relevant. What was the IC50 of arimistane?

    Either way, compound seems interesting and looks even more promising as a cutting agent. Will have to check out some of the other articles posted.
    Quote Originally Posted by kaikara View Post
    I did a google image search for the rest of the graph. Arimistane is .22. Just slightly better than the new compound at .3.
    He got it for you. You can also simply find it in any of the old writeups. To avoid confusion, the compound this thread is about is not arimistane

  12. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Joint pain should not be an issue
    Sir you have my attention.....

  13. Excited for this
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  14. Linked this a lot...so bumping
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Linked this a lot...so bumping
    Any eta on when we can get the new regular erase? Would love to have my hands on a Bottle for the start of march

  16. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post
    Any eta on when we can get the new regular erase? Would love to have my hands on a Bottle for the start of march
    We just got it back into our warehouse yesterday. It should be hitting retailers soon.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post

    We just got it back into our warehouse yesterday. It should be hitting retailers soon.
    Excellent. Any idea if there will be an insider?

  18. I saw in another thread some guys were saying they were already taking the new erase, not the pro version.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I saw in another thread some guys were saying they were already taking the new erase, not the pro version.
    It's been released. We were just out of it for awhile.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post

    It's been released. We were just out of it for awhile.
    Interesting, I didnt see it at planet or on the PES site. Ill bolo

  21. Because of its affects on inflammation. Would this be a bad thing to stack with ArA

  22. Quote Originally Posted by mechka_grizli View Post
    Because of its affects on inflammation. Would this be a bad thing to stack with ArA
    Others can speak to this more certainly but I would imagine like with fish oil or cissus type products, just dose as far away from eachother as possible, like at least 4 hours apart

  23. Quote Originally Posted by chedapalooza View Post

    Others can speak to this more certainly but I would imagine like with fish oil or cissus type products, just dose as far away from eachother as possible, like at least 4 hours apart
    I work out first thing in the AM and then dose my EP with my first meal post as per the label directions. Would it be acceptable to dose the EP before bed?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by mechka_grizli View Post
    Because of its affects on inflammation. Would this be a bad thing to stack with ArA
    Stacks fine sir. It's not about inflammation, it's about a specific type that you want to avoid: COX-2. This does not act there

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Stacks fine sir. It's not about inflammation, it's about a specific type that you want to avoid: COX-2. This does not act there
    Thanx coop

  26. So...if arimistane is a slightly better AI than this new ingredient, why did PES make the switch? Am I missing something?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by fasttaker View Post
    So...if arimistane is a slightly better AI than this new ingredient, why did PES make the switch? Am I missing something?
    Could anyone ask this question one more time?
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Could anyone ask this question one more time?
    I hadn't seen it asked before, and it hasn't been asked in this thread. I take it that no one has given a satisfactory answer yet?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by fasttaker View Post

    I hadn't seen it asked before, and it hasn't been asked in this thread. I take it that no one has given a satisfactory answer yet?
    Well, arimistane had side effects in a lot of users that the new compound apparently doesn't have. They included more of it (100mg instead of 75mg of arimistane) so it should be a great option to ppl who had sides from the old formula.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by tyrub42 View Post
    Well, arimistane had side effects in a lot of users that the new compound apparently doesn't have. They included more of it (100mg instead of 75mg of arimistane) so it should be a great option to ppl who had sides from the old formula.
    Gotcha. I appreciate it.
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