Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione vs Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione? - AnabolicMinds.com

Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione vs Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione?

  1. New Member
    conkertheking's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    25
    Rep Power
    658

    Reputation

    Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione vs Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione?


    Hey, very quick question: As I said in my other thread I'm currently taking Erase Pro, have only been taking it since last Wed so far too early to talk about results! But I just noticed something odd and wondered if anyone could help me out:
    I had assumed that Erase Pro was pretty much the same as original erase except with a a higher dose and some new ingredients on top of the original ones. However, I just had a look at both and noticed that the active AI ingredient seems to be slightly sifferent. With original Erase it was Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione, while Erase Pro lists it as Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione.

    I'm not great with chemistry, but can anyone explain whether there's any practical difference between "Androst / dien" and "Androsta / diene" in the name of the AI? And should this inform my decision on which product to take? I'm still assuming Erase Pro is more potent, but I'm wondering now if Erase might have a slight edge purely because most of the studies and references I've seen on its effects have talked about Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione rather than Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione which Pro lists.

    Of course, I'm new to this product and to AIs in general so for all I know one of the webpages might simply have a typo on it and the two ingredients should be listed in the same way. Anyone know how this works?

  2. New Member
    SChasEE's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  171 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Posts
    75
    Rep Power
    36271

    Reputation

    I'm just about to start Erase Pro this week and had the same question...
  3. Elite Member
    kbayne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    6,080
    Rep Power
    4548551

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by conkertheking View Post
    Hey, very quick question: As I said in my other thread I'm currently taking Erase Pro, have only been taking it since last Wed so far too early to talk about results! But I just noticed something odd and wondered if anyone could help me out:
    I had assumed that Erase Pro was pretty much the same as original erase except with a a higher dose and some new ingredients on top of the original ones. However, I just had a look at both and noticed that the active AI ingredient seems to be slightly sifferent. With original Erase it was Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione, while Erase Pro lists it as Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione.

    I'm not great with chemistry, but can anyone explain whether there's any practical difference between "Androst / dien" and "Androsta / diene" in the name of the AI? And should this inform my decision on which product to take? I'm still assuming Erase Pro is more potent, but I'm wondering now if Erase might have a slight edge purely because most of the studies and references I've seen on its effects have talked about Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione rather than Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione which Pro lists.

    Of course, I'm new to this product and to AIs in general so for all I know one of the webpages might simply have a typo on it and the two ingredients should be listed in the same way. Anyone know how this works?
    I just looked at my bottles and they both have the same ingredient:

    Androsta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione (Arimistane)

    I think it is just worded wrong on Nutra because on Nutra it is Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione but on other sites both are Androsta.
    PES Representative
    http://www.pescience.com/insider
    http://www.selectprotein.com
    •   
       

  4. New Member
    bdybldnaam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Posts
    217
    Rep Power
    45663

    Reputation

    Definitely the same according to my stash.

    Name:  IMG_20130402_150423.jpg
Views: 4250
Size:  220.9 KB

    These are bought in Europe however, so dont know if it's any different in the US..?


    EDIT:
    Must have missed kbayne's post. Looks like it's the same in the US.
  5. Elite Member
    kbayne's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    6,080
    Rep Power
    4548551

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by bdybldnaam View Post
    Definitely the same according to my stash.

    Name:  IMG_20130402_150423.jpg
Views: 4250
Size:  220.9 KB

    These are bought in Europe however, so dont know if it's any different in the US..?


    EDIT:
    Must have missed kbayne's post. Looks like it's the same in the US.
    I tried to get a picture but my camera phone was making it too blurry so it wasn't possible to see the ingredient. Glad someone could post up the picture of the two bottles side by side though
  6. Elite Member
    bolt10's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Posts
    8,451
    Rep Power
    3471603

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    They should have the same active ingredient in both. My bottles contain the same nomenclature as each other.
    PES Representative
    Don't miss out on the next deal:
    http://pescience.com/insider
    Protein Backed by Science: http://selectprotein.com
  7. New Member
    conkertheking's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    25
    Rep Power
    658

    Reputation

    I was researching this last night and I found a link which I now can't seem to find in my history, in which someone basically said that the discrepancy is simply a difference in how chemical names are spelled in the UK versus the US - similar I suppose to the difference between oestrogen and estrogen. I'm in Ireland myself so it would probably vary from store to store between the US and UK spelling, which makes some kind of sense.

    If this is indeed the case, then Androst-3,5-dien-7,17-dione and Androsra-3,5-diene-7,17-dione are probably the exact same compound, with a simple regional variation in spelling.
    Would love if anyone could confirm this, of course, as I'm having a bit of trouble finding the thread in history now!
  8. Board Sponsor
    Rodja's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  220 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    23,051
    Rep Power
    919686

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    They're the same active AI.
    M.Ed. Ex Phys
  9. PESCIENCE.com
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,159
    Rep Power
    3183271

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    They are synonyms...no difference
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Replies: 4
    Last Post: 12-14-2012, 05:14 PM
  2. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 11-24-2012, 02:35 PM
  3. Replies: 16
    Last Post: 08-17-2012, 09:37 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in