Diet on Anabeta Elite

  1. Diet on Anabeta Elite


    Hey fellas,

    Looking to start up an Anabeta Elite run here soon that I have stashed away. Currently my diet is off days 2000 cals 50 carb/209 pro/102 fat. On workout days 2760 cals 313 carb/272 prot/46 fat. I have maintenance around 2300. Weight is about 205 and bf is probably 12 or 13%. I'm looking to gain some quality lean mass to get ready for my season up in the spring. I will begin to cut some of the fat gain (hopefully minimal) mid to late january. Question is, does my diet look alright for an anabeta elite run or should I up off day cals a with some more carbs by 100-200 cals to maybe something like 2200 cals 110c/218pro/100 f and workout days keep cals the same but up carbs a bit and lower the prot to something like 347c/227p/51f? what's your guys' experience with anabeta elite and eating over your maintenance?
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html


  2. I used anabeta to help me bulk up. Be prepared for the first few days; for me, there was no amount of food that could satisfy my hunger. I wouldn't get bloated like I normally would.
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  3. I'm not really a fan of having rigid plans in place going into any cycle. Have an idea, but be flexible as you may need to tweak the plan as the cycle progresses. As mentioned, ABE is known to increase hunger...a lot. The holiday season is upon us and I'd use the ABE to help keep the bulk cleanish and make some solid gains in both strength and size.
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  4. i never noticed increased hunger on ABE. on original AB the hunger increase was there, but never ABE and ive taken 3 bottles. maybe im the exception not the rule.
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  5. Alright guys, thanks for the input. I think I'm going to up the carbs on off days a little like I stated in my first post. I think I've read somewhere that anabeta worked a lot better for someone when they upped their carbs from a previous run where carbs were lower. And with you guys saying you don't get as bloated from the carbs you eat I think I'm going to give it a try. I might try and throw up semi detailed log where ill try and list workouts/diet maybe 3-4x a week on mwf & possibly saturday's workout too. But I'm still debating it. Thanks for the input
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html

  6. Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post
    Alright guys, thanks for the input. I think I'm going to up the carbs on off days a little like I stated in my first post. I think I've read somewhere that anabeta worked a lot better for someone when they upped their carbs from a previous run where carbs were lower. And with you guys saying you don't get as bloated from the carbs you eat I think I'm going to give it a try. I might try and throw up semi detailed log where ill try and list workouts/diet maybe 3-4x a week on mwf & possibly saturday's workout too. But I'm still debating it. Thanks for the input

    I was the one who said that in my log when it first came out
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  7. From what I've read ABE doesn't increase hunger nearly as much as OG anabeta.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa View Post
    From what I've read ABE doesn't increase hunger nearly as much as OG anabeta.
    I have read some people saying this as well but there is such a tiny difference in anacyclus pyrethrum this shouldn't be the case.
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  9. O well...I'm only increasing off day calories by a couple hundred. I don't think I'm going to have a problem getting down the extra cals regardless of ABE increasing hunger or not lol I like food.

    Does the typical 2 pre wo 2 with first meal apply for fasted AM training and not eating for about 4-5 hours after training too or is there a different recommended dosing option that you guys are aware of?
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html

  10. ive taken about 4 bottles of ABE and OG AB and the hunger, pump is so much better with OG. i didnt experience any of that on ABE at all but again, maybe others do.
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  11. Damn...thanks for the heads up...I'll pick up some og next time and compare the 2 for myself. Would you say ABE is better suited for a recomp and og for a straight bulk?
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html

  12. Exactly. Abe is good on a cut as well
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  13. Alright bro. U have any recommendations on dosing for fasted AM training and not eating for 5-6 hours after dosing? That alright or is there a better option like taking with 1st meal and last meal?
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html

  14. Quote Originally Posted by jswain34
    Alright bro. U have any recommendations on dosing for fasted AM training and not eating for 5-6 hours after dosing? That alright or is there a better option like taking with 1st meal and last meal?
    I started ABE today, first run of it, first dose prior to training fasted. Got to the gym and puked. I'll be taking it prior to a meal tomorrow.

  15. Any reps have heard of this issue coming up before?
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html

  16. Just got back from the gym, squat/shoulder day. Took 2 caps ABE with my ECA & BCAAS, no feelings like I wanted to puke. So, looks like ill be going with the pwo dosing.
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html

  17. Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post
    Any reps have heard of this issue coming up before?
    Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post
    Just got back from the gym, squat/shoulder day. Took 2 caps ABE with my ECA & BCAAS, no feelings like I wanted to puke. So, looks like ill be going with the pwo dosing.
    Some people have issues with taking it fasted and some don't. Never bothered me but I still prefer it with a pre-workout meal (unless I am training fasted in which case I have no pre-workout meal).

  18. It's generally better to take AB/ABE with food, but it's not out of the realm of possibility that it may cause nausea if dose prior to fasted training. As with most things, you have to try it yourself to see if it does or does not work for you.
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  19. Well what is the overall +/- options of dosing pre workout/1st post workout meal? Id like to figure this out before I get too deep in my run.
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html

  20. this is how i dose anabeta/anabeta elite

    NON TRAINING

    breakfast: 1 cap

    Lunch: 1 cap

    Early Dinner: 1 cap

    Late Dinner: 1 cap

    TRAINING

    2 caps pre workout after an hour of my pre workout meal

    2 caps post without with postworkout meal
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post
    Well what is the overall +/- options of dosing pre workout/1st post workout meal? Id like to figure this out before I get too deep in my run.
    I prefer 1st PWO meal, but that's my preference.
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  22. What about 1 cap pre, 2 caps post workout meal and 1 cap with dinner around 7?
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html

  23. Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post
    What about 1 cap pre, 2 caps post workout meal and 1 cap with dinner around 7?
    It's really just speculation at that point. There's nothing empirical to say how different dosing schemes will work. It's something that you have to play around with throughout your run.
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  24. I remember someone saying they did really well taking two caps before bed.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Rodja

    It's really just speculation at that point. There's nothing empirical to say how different dosing schemes will work. It's something that you have to play around with throughout your run.
    Good point. No need to make it more complicated than it really needs to be. I just like getting into a routine with dosing so I'm just trying to figure it out. Thanks for the input guys. I'm probably going to try the 1 pre 2 post and 1 with dinner.
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html

  26. I am big on 2 pre and 2 post
    doing my own thang!

  27. do you workout fasted in the AM?
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html

  28. Just a little update on the increased hunger topic. I don't feel like it has necessarily made me any hungrier, but I definitely don't ever get full. Its like if I wanted to I could easily eat more, but I don't have that feeling of "holy **** I'm f'ing hungry".
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html

  29. Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post
    do you workout fasted in the AM?
    Not really
    doing my own thang!

  30. Alright guys, as an update, I am definitely experiencing the hunger that people get from anabeta. I literally just want to eat all the time. Like its beginning to get bad, I'm usually good at controlling my hunger and not giving in and sticking to the plan. But these last 2 days I seriously can't even control it. I'm still eating clean foods, but I'm literally clearing all my food. This bulk might result in a little more fat than I wanted :/.
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html

  31. Is this for Anabeta elite or Anabeta? For me both make my hunger brutal.
    doing my own thang!

  32. Sorry, I'm running ABE. Yah man, I could eat for days. Although, the half jar of peanut butter, ezekiel english muffin, 8 oz chicken breast, protein shake with almond milk and 2 cups of green beans I had has held me over for about 3 hours now. So..I guess that's a step in the right direction.
    Training log:

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/267913-jswains-training-log.html
  

  
 

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