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  1.  10-08-2012  08:18 PM
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    Erase Degree of Inhibition


    Natty mentioned that Erase has a similar Ki value as aromasin. Can someone post up the exact numbers and the study(s) in which they were determined?
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    Would mind seeing that either.

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    Aromasin is in the 90+% range, very close to Letro actually. Arimastane, Erase ingredient, is nearly the same and 75mg is equivalent to 25mg of aromasin. I think the exact number is 96% but I slept since I read the stats.
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    This^^^, research it and you will come about the study that does the analysis of its Ki value.
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    Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
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    Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    This^^^, research it and you will come about the study that does the analysis of its Ki value.
    The data mentioned has been claimed by your company. Why should we research for evidence of said data, when PES could just as easily post, link or at the very least point us too it. It's the tried and true business model. If a claim is made, show customers were it came from.

    I read enough clinical papers as it is and I do not have the time to look through various articles in hopes of finding one with a results section comparable to what has been mentioned. Especially not when it can easily be posted here. I have no doubt that what has been said is anything other then fact, but I want to see the reference that the data has been extrapolated from as it may offer better insight into not only the product but various other "competitors" one may choose from. It wouldn't, by chance, be one of the references listed in the product write up?
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    Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    The data mentioned has been claimed by your company. Why should we research for evidence of said data, when PES could just as easily post, link or at the very least point us too it. It's the tried and true business model. If a claim is made, show customers were it came from.

    I read enough clinical papers as it is and I do not have the time to look through various articles in hopes of finding one with a results section comparable to what has been mentioned. Especially not when it can easily be posted here. I have no doubt that what has been said is anything other then fact, but I want to see the reference that the data has been extrapolated from as it may offer better insight into not only the product but various other "competitors" one may choose from. It wouldn't, by chance, be one of the references listed in the product write up?
    I agree, "they" seem to do this a lot.

  9.  10-14-2012  05:13 PM
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    Originally Posted by beastybean View Post
    I agree, "they" seem to do this a lot.
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    Originally Posted by beastybean

    I agree, "they" seem to do this a lot.
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    Originally Posted by prld2gr8ns View Post
    The data mentioned has been claimed by your company. Why should we research for evidence of said data, when PES could just as easily post, link or at the very least point us too it. It's the tried and true business model. If a claim is made, show customers were it came from.

    I read enough clinical papers as it is and I do not have the time to look through various articles in hopes of finding one with a results section comparable to what has been mentioned. Especially not when it can easily be posted here. I have no doubt that what has been said is anything other then fact, but I want to see the reference that the data has been extrapolated from as it may offer better insight into not only the product but various other "competitors" one may choose from. It wouldn't, by chance, be one of the references listed in the product write up?
    If I remember correctly it is in the full text of one of our listed refs.

    Specifically http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8035427 I believe.
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    Originally Posted by beastybean View Post
    I agree, "they" seem to do this a lot.
    When have you been brushed off?

    I have been around a long time, and I believe we have been completely transparent on what we use, and why we use it.
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    You guys should found a study on erase on young exercising humans

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    Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    When have you been brushed off?

    I have been around a long time, and I believe we have been completely transparent on what we use, and why we use it.
    I have been here since PES came to NP, they are anything but dishonest or misleading. I use their products and they are 100% transparent. Not many like these guys in this industry less us at BPS that believe in the same level of transparency. Careful with the mudslinging when there is nothing to support it .
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    Originally Posted by YoungJD
    You guys should found a study on erase on young exercising humans
    cause all the steroids in Vida were used in exercising men... oh wait... it was rats, specifically one muscle and their prostate.

    Glad that didn't turn out as suspected in the end cause we sure don't have any effective roids based on those obscure tests/studies.

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