- 11-09-2011, 12:46 PM
Does it matter if I take it on a empty stomach? I am doing a IF diet so I am fasted for the majority of the day.
Also what are the best times to take it? Currently I take it immediately upon waking up and then again 5 hours later.
Last question, can I take Erase and a ECA stack together or should I space them apart?
- 11-09-2011, 12:49 PM
It is theorised that the proposed cortisol lowering effects would be acute so take it when you would prefer to do this. Some people prefer first thing in the morning when cortisol is highest, I personal prefer after training because I tend to suffer from morning lethargy if I dose it the first way and don't need a full 3 cap daily dosage of Erase.
Empty stomach should be fine as far as I am aware, I have tried both and haven't had any side effects from either.
You could use Erase with ECA if you wanted. I personally do not like the ECA stack (don't like the traditional aspirin component) but stacking with stimulants is fine as a general rule.PEScience Representative
- 11-09-2011, 11:43 PM
Best times to use Erase are first thing (when cortisol is high), and then again 6-8 hours later (because it is a natural Testosterone booster). You could choose to use it first thing and pre-bed as well, though, since cortisol is high at both times, and Erase DOES control cortisol.
If you used the first thing and 6-8 hours post-Dose 1 dosing/timing protocol for Erase, then you could dose with the ECA stack, yes (since it would get dosed about those times). As Ben said, I personally wouldn't do aspirin as "A" - instead perhaps use Alpha-Yohimbine (or Alpha-T2 - since it contains Alpha-Yohimbine in it), and that makes a great stack with Erase.
11-10-2011, 12:11 PM
I thought E + yohimbe is a bad & dangerous combo. I have read this before in a couple lyle mcdonald books
11-10-2011, 12:15 PM
Ephedrine and yohimbine has been studied and has been shown to raise blood pressure.
Rauwolscine is a much safer version. Of course if you stack them please introduce them slowly and taper the start dates to be extra careful.
I have used AT2 and ephedrine without any noticeable issues.
11-10-2011, 12:18 PM
Here is something from Lyle Mcdonald himself. The yohimbine stacking topic is at the bottom.
11-10-2011, 12:31 PM
11-10-2011, 12:34 PM
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11-10-2011, 12:45 PM
11-10-2011, 04:40 PM
That may be the case with Yohimbine, but Alpha-Yohimbine is NOT the same as yohimbine - they are two totally different things. Also, it depends on the individual.
Re "supplements" that can help with blood pressure are Hawthorne Berry and Garlic.
11-10-2011, 04:50 PM
11-10-2011, 06:30 PM
So does alpha yohimbine work similarly as yohimbine doez? Reason I ask is because I just read the link BDCC posted about yohimbine and the ECA stack by Lyle McDonald and now I am thinking about adding yohimbine BUT alpha t2 contains alpha yohimbine and not te regular one. So would the alpha yohimbine still work the same way as Lyle explained in that link?
11-11-2011, 01:45 AM
11-11-2011, 10:33 AM
11-11-2011, 02:54 PM
11-11-2011, 03:01 PM
This is how I am taking everything
Wake up take ECA (25/200/81), 2 caps Alpha T2, Erase and 5 caps HGHup.
5 hours later EC (25/200), 2 caps Alpha T2 and Erase
Around 2pm first meal of the day and I take recompadrol prior to this meal
At 5pm my final EC (25/200)
Pre bed 5caps HGHup
11-11-2011, 03:05 PM
11-11-2011, 10:49 PM
11-12-2011, 01:09 AM
I am taking HGH up twice during my day since I am on IF so go sometime without any food and RMS had posted something before recommending it
11-12-2011, 10:09 AM
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