Anything Wrong with Alpha-T2, Shift Lean Xtreme?

  1. Advanced Member
    Domenic's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  188 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Age
    25
    Posts
    657
    Rep Power
    25778
    Level
    21
    Lv. Percent
    99.66%
    Achievements Reputation Pro

    Anything Wrong with Alpha-T2, Shift Lean Xtreme?


    Going on vacation in 3 weeks, and as soon as I get back I wanted to give these three products a try. Only because I BELIEVE (and I am wrong a lot) that all three products work three different ways... but are there any ingredients in any of these that would cause a problem with each other?

  2. The Female Terminator
    Rosie Chee's Avatar
    Stats
    5'1"  120 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Age
    30
    Posts
    16,162
    Rep Power
    261079
    Level
    75
    Lv. Percent
    37.77%
    Achievements Reputation ProReputation AuthorityPosting ProPosting AuthorityPosting Veteran

    Quote Originally Posted by Domenic View Post
    Going on vacation in 3 weeks, and as soon as I get back I wanted to give these three products a try. Only because I BELIEVE (and I am wrong a lot) that all three products work three different ways... but are there any ingredients in any of these that would cause a problem with each other?
    You'd be fine using all three products at once. Be careful though when stacking Alpha-T2 and Shift to only use no more than 4-5 capsules of both products COMBINED, since the maximum dosage of each product separately is four caps daily, and they both contain the same active.

    ~Rosie~
    Contact Me for INDIVIDUALIZED TRAINING AND NUTRITION

    "Think like a Champion. Train like a Warrior. Live with a Purpose." - Rosie Chee
  3. PESCIENCE.com
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,200
    Rep Power
    3266390
    Level
    82
    Lv. Percent
    44.75%
    Achievements Reputation AuthorityReputation ProReputation VeteranPosting ProPosting AuthorityPosting Veteran

    You'd be better off with just Alpha-T2 + Erase, IMO

    Alpha-T2 will give you a solid dose of T2, Erase will reduce cortisol and estrogen.

    if you want some green tea get Nutra's bulk caps
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
    •   
       

  4. T50
    Advanced Member
    T50's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Posts
    869
    Rep Power
    6737
    Level
    23
    Lv. Percent
    25.79%
    Achievements Reputation Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    You'd be better off with just Alpha-T2 + Erase, IMO

    Alpha-T2 will give you a solid dose of T2, Erase will reduce cortisol and estrogen.

    if you want some green tea get Nutra's bulk caps
    Yup, definitely go with this.
    Cutting all summer, cycle in September
  5. Professional Member
    kevinhy's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    3,163
    Rep Power
    291880
    Level
    43
    Lv. Percent
    97.22%
    Achievements Reputation ProReputation AuthorityPosting Pro

    As natty said, I feel an alpha t2/ erase stack would provide the most benefits.

    Alpha t2 and shift both contain the t2, so they don't exactly work via different mechanisms. The additional ingredients in AT2 is where the synergy lies. The rauwolscine turns off typical fat storage properties which increases the beta adrenergic pathways ability to stimulate fat loss, hence the higenamine. Beta agonists are also shown to be anti catabolic, so this will also help with muscle preservation while cutting. Erase lowers both estrogen and cortisol, so you're essentially targeting fat loss on all fronts.
    PES - PM me anytime for any questions
    "Like" us on Facebook
    Subscribe to the PES Newsletter for all Specials and Announcements
  6. Advanced Member
    Domenic's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  188 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Age
    25
    Posts
    657
    Rep Power
    25778
    Level
    21
    Lv. Percent
    99.66%
    Achievements Reputation Pro

    @Rosie: those are the two I was worried about not vibing together! I knew there must be a reason NP doesn't offer a stack of the two.

    @Natty: I love PES, and Erase is great, but I'm looking for definite cortisol control, rather than definite estrogen control and PROPOSED cortisol control. :-/
  7. Professional Member
    kevinhy's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  210 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    3,163
    Rep Power
    291880
    Level
    43
    Lv. Percent
    97.22%
    Achievements Reputation ProReputation AuthorityPosting Pro

    Quote Originally Posted by Domenic View Post
    @Rosie: those are the two I was worried about not vibing together! I knew there must be a reason NP doesn't offer a stack of the two.

    @Natty: I love PES, and Erase is great, but I'm looking for definite cortisol control, rather than definite estrogen control and PROPOSED cortisol control. :-/
    It's true that no studies have been conducted to examine the active in Erases ability to reduce cortisol, but that doesn't mean it can't. Since its a metabolite of 7-oxo, and since 11b-hsd is required to metabolize 7-keto and 7-hydroxy groupings, it acts as a competitive inhibitor of this enzyme. That enzyme is also responsible for converting inactive cortisone into the active cortisol. Just like the actives in lean extreme.
    PES - PM me anytime for any questions
    "Like" us on Facebook
    Subscribe to the PES Newsletter for all Specials and Announcements
  8. PESCIENCE.com
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,200
    Rep Power
    3266390
    Level
    82
    Lv. Percent
    44.75%
    Achievements Reputation AuthorityReputation ProReputation VeteranPosting ProPosting AuthorityPosting Veteran

    Quote Originally Posted by Domenic View Post
    @Rosie: those are the two I was worried about not vibing together! I knew there must be a reason NP doesn't offer a stack of the two.

    @Natty: I love PES, and Erase is great, but I'm looking for definite cortisol control, rather than definite estrogen control and PROPOSED cortisol control. :-/
    Proposed only because it has not been tested directly. You will find out quick that AT2 + Erase will be far superior than AT2 + LX. Why settle for less?

    Numerous DHEA 7-oxo and 7-hydroxy analogs and derivatives have been tested on 11b-HSD and shown activity.

    But to answer your original question, there is nothing wrong with that stack I just dont feel you need to use SHIFT with AT2. Just roll with AT2
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  9. Advanced Member
    Domenic's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  188 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Age
    25
    Posts
    657
    Rep Power
    25778
    Level
    21
    Lv. Percent
    99.66%
    Achievements Reputation Pro

    I'm just looking for something to help with the stubborn gut and face fat. I have no reason not to trust Natty's advice, so AT2 and Erase it is. I'll even log it. As soon as I get back from vacation. Maybe a week after I get back, so I have a few days to drop all the water weight that comes with less than 20g carbs a day, then a vacation full of booze and Italian food...
  10. Elite Member
    schizm's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Age
    38
    Posts
    5,653
    Rep Power
    2488530
    Level
    69
    Lv. Percent
    71.25%
    Achievements Reputation ProReputation AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by Domenic View Post
    I'm just looking for something to help with the stubborn gut and face fat. I have no reason not to trust Natty's advice, so AT2 and Erase it is. I'll even log it. As soon as I get back from vacation. Maybe a week after I get back, so I have a few days to drop all the water weight that comes with less than 20g carbs a day, then a vacation full of booze and Italian food...
    How's the OEP treating you? I'm using AT2 now (@2caps/day) and much prefer it (as does my body's reaction to it) over OEP...
    ~SNS~ Serious Nutrition Solutions- Rep
    Cortisol control:ReduceXT/Test Boost:DAA (bulk&caps)/Pump/N.O.:Agmatine(bulk & caps)/Test/sleep support:ZMA **RB** Est Post #22
  11. Advanced Member
    Domenic's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  188 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Age
    25
    Posts
    657
    Rep Power
    25778
    Level
    21
    Lv. Percent
    99.66%
    Achievements Reputation Pro

    I'm not very sensitive to stims at all, and I'm taking two first thing, before fasted cardio, then two more six hours later... no side effects generally associated with 1,3 Dimeth... as for the product's effectiveness... I finally hit 199 today, which I haven't been since... I don't know, 6th or 7th grade? I did break past that 202 barrier with OEP, but I've also upped my cardio, so who knows?
  12. Elite Member
    schizm's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  190 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Age
    38
    Posts
    5,653
    Rep Power
    2488530
    Level
    69
    Lv. Percent
    71.25%
    Achievements Reputation ProReputation AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by Domenic View Post
    I'm not very sensitive to stims at all, and I'm taking two first thing, before fasted cardio, then two more six hours later... no side effects generally associated with 1,3 Dimeth... as for the product's effectiveness... I finally hit 199 today, which I haven't been since... I don't know, 6th or 7th grade? I did break past that 202 barrier with OEP, but I've also upped my cardio, so who knows?
    that's cool...glad it's working well for you...I know for me, whenever I re-introduce OEP or anything with alphaY in it (which makes me sweat and have go to the bathroom big time) I usually lose 1-2 pounds worth of water the first week or so...
    ~SNS~ Serious Nutrition Solutions- Rep
    Cortisol control:ReduceXT/Test Boost:DAA (bulk&caps)/Pump/N.O.:Agmatine(bulk & caps)/Test/sleep support:ZMA **RB** Est Post #22
  13. PESCIENCE.com
    nattydisaster's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  0 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    10,200
    Rep Power
    3266390
    Level
    82
    Lv. Percent
    44.75%
    Achievements Reputation AuthorityReputation ProReputation VeteranPosting ProPosting AuthorityPosting Veteran

    Quote Originally Posted by Domenic View Post
    I'm not very sensitive to stims at all, and I'm taking two first thing, before fasted cardio, then two more six hours later... no side effects generally associated with 1,3 Dimeth... as for the product's effectiveness... I finally hit 199 today, which I haven't been since... I don't know, 6th or 7th grade? I did break past that 202 barrier with OEP, but I've also upped my cardio, so who knows?
    Congrats on breaking the barrier man
    Amino-IV - Not Your Average Amino
    SELECT Protein
    - Ultra-Premium Blend
    ALPHAMINE - Thermogenics...Redefined
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Replies: 7
    Last Post: 06-10-2011, 11:25 PM
  2. Boladrol + Erase + OEP + Alpha-T2/Shift Lean Bulk Cycle
    By adamlau in forum Supplement Logs
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 06-02-2011, 07:36 PM
  3. lean Xtreme, shift, erase, and recreate?
    By phattie in forum Supplement Logs
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 04-13-2011, 04:24 PM
  4. Shift plus Lean Xtreme
    By jdevo2004 in forum PES
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 02-11-2011, 03:43 PM
  5. Lean Xtreme 2, Activate Xtreme, Alpha Drive XL
    By fatburner2007 in forum Supplements
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 02-02-2008, 11:46 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in