PES Stacks - Dosing and Explanations
05-17-2011 03:15 PM
Well alrighty then. I will be the first to run this stack. I will go the first four weeks using alpha and forged burned and run the log under my transformation log. If you dont mind. If not I can run it seperate.
05-18-2011 11:13 AM
05-18-2011 02:20 PM
I was not aware that Forged Burner had tyrosine in it. I would not recommend stacking anything with Tyrosine with Alpha-T2.
Originally Posted by Onlychevy6
Alpha-T2/OEP/Erase will be all you need
05-18-2011 02:41 PM
Hmm. Could you please specify why it is not a good idea. Not only for my benefit but others in the future?
Originally Posted by nattydisaster
05-18-2011 02:46 PM
It has to do with the Maoi properties of yohimbine. I'm on my phone so it's hard to post a detailed explanation, so run a google on the cheese effect.
Originally Posted by Onlychevy6
05-19-2011 11:56 AM
Correct...there are interections. There use to be a drink called Spike or something they sold at gas stations they had both it in, and thats when they really found the interaction
05-19-2011 12:00 PM
Im doing PES Superman Stack and Im leaning out quite nicely. I was thinking of ordering same stack again or do i change something this time around. Finally I have top four packs but last two are still covered with a thin layer of fat. I need a final push!!!!
05-19-2011 02:02 PM
Running with the Big Boys
You could use the exact same stack - give it a little break, 2-4 weeks before starting back up again if you used it for 8-12 weeks, so that your body is not used to it.
Originally Posted by Steeladdict
That final push is going to be aided by your supplements, yes, but also look at your NUTRITION (and training) and make adjustments, no matter how small, so that EVERYthing is optimized for you for fat loss.
All the best in getting your 6-pack - I know how motivating it is being in the final straight!
05-19-2011 02:22 PM
You can use all PES products for up to 8 week and then a 4 week break is needed
06-02-2011 04:27 AM
Can u tell me what benefits i would get from the alpha t2 + shift + erase stack? And how do i need to dose them. I belive there was a pdf around here where the dosage was explained.
By the way its hard to get PES products in the Netherlands!
06-02-2011 05:51 AM
The product manual .pdf can be found here
- Erase is an aromatase inhibitor that raises testosterone through this pathway and acts to mitigate catabolism while taking these (prevent unwanted muscle loss).
- Alpha-T2 contains an ingredient to increase thyroid output without being suppressive to natural levels while containing very low amounts of stimulants. This is the stronger of the fat loss products.
- Shift contains the same ingredient as AT2 (3,3'-diido-l-thyronine) but can be taken in the evening as it contains no CNS stimulants at all.
Conventional dosing for the stack:
- Upon waking before breakfast: 2 caps Alpha-T2 + 1 cap Erase
- 6-8 hours later: 1 cap Alpha-T2 + 1 cap Erase + 1 cap Shift
- <1 hour pre bed: 1 cap Erase + 2 caps Shift.
I hope that answers your question. If not just ask away.
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06-23-2011 12:57 PM
Thanks for the solid information.
After a few weeks i recieved my stack . Thinking about to logging these with pictures!
Greetings from the netherlands!
07-02-2011 10:22 AM
So a Shift, Erase, Titanium stack would be:
2-3 Erase a day, spread out, with or without food.
1-2 Shift at Breakfast, 1 more 6-8 hours later with or without food.
1 Titanium with breakfast, 1 in evening with food.
Is that right?
07-02-2011 01:28 PM
07-27-2011 11:15 AM
I'm LOVING PES!!!!!
My first try with PES was a stack of Shift and Dexaprine. I dropped 10 lbs in a month.
The second try was Shift, Erase, Titanium, and DAA. I added 10 lbs...of muscle!!! I'm much fuller and tighter.
I am in a break atm, but the next stack will be Alpha-T2, Erase, and Dexaprine. The goal is to maintain the gains and lose more bodyfat...it seems the closer I get to 40 years old the harder it is to have abs.
07-27-2011 12:56 PM
40 years with abs would be saweet!
08-14-2011 01:24 PM
I'm trying to design my next stack for later this month or early next. In need to lay off Erase and Alpha T2 for a while. This is what I am thinking.
Pslin or Yellow Gold
NOW Super Enzymes
The goal is to get the most out of my foods and macronutients, keep (or gain) lean mass while minimizing fat gain and allowing the body to recover from PH's.
How's that sound?
08-14-2011 01:35 PM
I haven't tried PSlin so take this with a pinch of salt but I think there would be serious overlap with AnaBeta.
AnaBeta is not a glucose disposal product but does a very good job of it and has stronger effects than other products I have tried in this category.
08-14-2011 08:40 PM
I don't mind scratching something off the list...saves me money!!! lol
06-11-2012 01:07 PM
Love your products. I had a quick question on an "empty stomach".
I so slow paced cardio in the morning with your At2 and erase pro.
Would a scoop of whey protein (120 cals) ruin the "empty stomach effect"?
Would a scoop of just amino powder ruin it?
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