In the military
- 11-08-2010, 10:26 PM
- 11-09-2010, 12:07 AM
- 11-09-2010, 11:09 AM
ok but how long does it stay in your system once you stop taking it? Like my next piss test is around march i wanted to run that stack for dec, would it be out of my system by then?
11-09-2010, 11:10 AM
11-09-2010, 12:23 PM
11-09-2010, 01:50 PM
11-09-2010, 02:36 PM
As Rosie stated nothing in those that will cause a positive drug test, with the exception of 1,3 Dim having the "possibility" of causing a false positive. Now, that being said, there is also nothing in those products that are on any military banned substance list. At least not to my knowledge and I do run the urinalysis program where I am at covering both Marine Corps and Navy personnel. Even with the possibility of 1,3 Dim to cause a false positive, it is very unlikely. I have been using products with it in it for years to include OEP and have taken drug tests with it active in my system and have never popped positive for anything. Nor has anyone else that I know who were taking it during drug tests. Hell, I'm pretty sure they sell OEP at the GNC here on the Joint Base I am on. At the most you would want to do when you take your test is when asked the question "are you taking any medications, supplements, OTC or otherwise" simply mention that you are taking OTC supplements. If you were to pop you would be able to easily clear it up. As I've said though, I've never seen anything like that happen though. So, in case you haven't picked up on my opinions man, you have nothing to worry about. Go ahead and rock out with the supps.
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12-27-2010, 01:50 AM
synephrine is simmilar to amphetamine and may cause a false positive reaction.... not sure about methyl synephrine...
12-27-2010, 03:27 AM
In the army yoir commander has to special request a banned substance test, and it will be sent to the olympic testing people. The turn around time is like 3 months or some such. The amount the army requires you to pee is less than the olympic guys and they will reject it if there isnt enoigh. So you will never get screwed in the army for "roids" unless your dumb about it.
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12-27-2010, 12:19 PM
12-27-2010, 12:22 PM
12-27-2010, 12:54 PM
Even if it produced a false positive when it is sent to the lab for analysis via GS/MS they will see that it isn't amphetamines. You are good to go bro. Best thing if you are worried is to ask your legal section.
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12-27-2010, 10:38 PM
12-27-2010, 11:00 PM
The military uses the Standard NIDA 5 panel screen which tests for the following:
Methamphetamines (Meth, Ecstasy)
Opiates (Heroin, opiate painkillers)
and adds LSD
Outside of that any other drug test does have to be specially requested by the commanding officer or criminal investigative service (this last one is usually when one is already in trouble). This includes all of the various banned substances such as the various prohormones and steroids. If one was being tested for those you would definitely know before hand as they would be required to notify you. In which case you may want to go ahead and speak with a lawyer if you are on something. The tests for these other substances are expensive and do take longer and almost always have to be sent to a drug lab outside of the military (the Navy/Marine Corps send the NIDA 5 panles to their to one of their two drug labs, San Diego or Norfolk (maybe Portsmouth) forget which for the latter). False positives are rare in the military, especially as the minimum concentration levels tested to in the military are at a higher threshold than those in the civilian and collegiate sectors including your average testing for work. In the civilian sector thresholds are set by SAMHSA which developed the Division of Workplace Programs specifically for the civilian workplace environment. Collegiate as we know is their own unique governing body and follows closely with the IOC.
All the military branches follow near the same guidelines and standards for testing as they are set initially by DOD policy.
01-15-2011, 12:50 PM
I was in the ARMY for years and knew guys that used AAS and various other PED's throughout my enlistment....That was never an issue and a false positive for OTC supplements is very rare
04-19-2015, 08:08 PM
Haven't heard anything on this topic in a while. Would especially be nice to hear from military and law enforcement bros in the know. Any attempt to research this online simply returns the list that the military is now testing for synthetic marijuana, and then an article on usmilitary-about-com.
This link lists the standard drugs for a 5-panel listed above, but also makes mention of several more substances in the "window period" section.
At the very least, I know the 5-panel list is not correctly exhaustive. For instance, Benzodiazepines are tested for, and Spice has now made the list. At the advanced stages, of course, the military now employs a Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry test, which will burn you on just about anything, but that is not, typically, the first step.
04-24-2015, 09:50 PM
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