Need suggestions from members who have gotten off Klonopin

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  1. Getting off Klon is easy. I took it for years, 2mg/d.

    First of all, it has a long half-life. This makes it convenient but also undesirable for long-term use. Replacing it with a shorter acting benzo is something to consider, so you may wish to discuss that with your doc. A long half-life = greater enzymatic involvement, greater receptor up-regulation, etc.. which equates to faster tolerance and higher addiction potential. If you're just taking it for stress then something like lorazepam might work equally well for about the same dose and only 1/3 the duration of action. Diazepam has a nice short half-life too, but also a much higher dose requirement, making it a less efficient replacement option if the goal is to minimize.

    Second, situational use is something to think about. If you don't have a chronic medical condition (like seizure) then why are you using it chronically? If you'd like to still treat the stress with a benzo, but are also serious about limiting dependency, using on a situational basis only seems like an obvious strategy.

    Also, if you'd like to get off of RXs completely, there are many potential alternatives which are natural and can attenuating withdrawal while also providing decent GABAnergic activity.
    "...The sole test of the validity of any idea is experiment." - Feynman


  2. Just to clarify:

    Diazepam(Valium) has a MUCH longer half-life than Klonopin. Klonopin is mainly prescribed for anxiety due to is somewhat long half-life. Ones like Alprazolam(Xanax) Lorazepam(Ativan) are used to seizures and panic attacks due to their quick onset.

    But again, be careful getting off of benzos. Just like with alcohol, the withdrawals can kill you (DT's).
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Brandinooooo View Post
    Just to clarify:

    Diazepam(Valium) has a MUCH longer half-life than Klonopin. Klonopin is mainly prescribed for anxiety due to is somewhat long half-life. Ones like Alprazolam(Xanax) Lorazepam(Ativan) are used to seizures and panic attacks due to their quick onset.

    But again, be careful getting off of benzos. Just like with alcohol, the withdrawals can kill you (DT's).
    Yes, thank you for correcting my generalization. Indeed, diazepam has some relatively long-lived actives. Though the long terminal values are generally misleading, as one could anticipated with a look at the comparatively short values of it's marketed metabolites. Things like temazepam, oxazepam, and even pro-metabolites like clorazepate (which demonstrates significantly longer duration when compared to diazepam, but you probably wouldn't guess it just looking at the numbers.)

    So yes, it would be more accurately stated from a 'clinical perspective', but I'd still classify the effective duration of diazepam below Klonipin and certainly below Xanax as well.

    And just to clarify further, clonazepam was originally marketed specifically for treatment of seizure. While it's off-label utility as an anxiolytic has become popular, and may account for the majority of it's prescriptions as you mentioned, situations like the OP now finds himself in are a obvious testimony to the perils of trading application efficiency for dosing convenience.
    "...The sole test of the validity of any idea is experiment." - Feynman

  4. Iíve been prescribed klonopin since I was 17 (now 25). I take it for epilepsy, Iíve gone a couple days before with out it. I Havnt noticed any withdrawal symptoms when i miss a dose. Will I eventually have bad withdrawals if I continue?

  5. There is A LOT of research out there about CBD oil, and coming off of benzos and opiods.

    While you don't get the high of THC, CBD's are the "healthy" side of marijuana. One of the major effects is anti-anxiety, and it has been shown to help with DT's from opiods and benzos. So you might want to look into some CBD oil as well. You can eat it drink it, vape it, whatever, but it is supposed to be quite beneficial in that area. A lot ofpeople are actually using it instead of benzos for anxiety too.

    Check out this article: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317221.php
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    There is A LOT of research out there about CBD oil, and coming off of benzos and opiods.

    While you don't get the high of THC, CBD's are the "healthy" side of marijuana. One of the major effects is anti-anxiety, and it has been shown to help with DT's from opiods and benzos. So you might want to look into some CBD oil as well. You can eat it drink it, vape it, whatever, but it is supposed to be quite beneficial in that area. A lot ofpeople are actually using it instead of benzos for anxiety too.

    Check out this article: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317221.php
    This is a very interesting part of cbd oil. Ive began to use it for pain. My girl however takes it for the anxiety. I havent seen her take xanax like she used too. She was a daily user and quit benzo's. She said she also cut back on her antidepressant. Stuff is expensive, but at least her product has a money back guarantee.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by RipdnTxs View Post
    Long story short, went through some really stressful times roughly 5 years ago and Dr. put me on Klonopin. I am still taking it to this day 2-2.5mg a day. My life is pretty stable now and the effects of this drug have really taken my zest for life away. No desire to workout anymore, do the things I used to enjoy etc etc.... I am going to go through this with my Drs help and guidance, but Ive read many horror stories about coming off this and its pretty scary. I would love to hear anybody else who has gone through this and what their experience was like and any suggestions on what helped and what didnt. Tks
    Take the dose down 0.5 mg every 2 weeks that will reduce sides and you ween off

  8. Clonazepam is a longer acting benzo so it is easier to taper than something like Xanax. Youíre not taking a huge dose which is good, and if you could taper down in 0.25mg increments then you probably will feel very little withdrawals during the taper but in the end there will always be something. The detox from even shorter acting Benzos lasts more than a few days.

    The real problem is whether you are an actual drug addict who will have a lot of difficulty tapering the dose and not wanting to just pop an extra 4mg because you want to feel good. Also someone stated going to a detox because of the seizure risk. The seizure risk is a real danger but if you get your dose down low enough you should not need a supervised detox. Most detoxes will keep you there for a week max and theyíll bring you from 2.5 to .5 and then send you home when you are safe from a medical standpoint to kick the rest. Light exercise during mild detox can be helpful at times to boost endorphins.

  9. I appreciate ur comments, but everything the last two above said is straight out of a book that SHOULD apply to everyone. I am currently on .56 of a milligram, I have to split 1/8 milligram pill into four and I am having success with dropping every 5 weeks at only .003 drop. I have been coming off this poison for over 3 years now. I have tried the above suggestions and ended up on LOA from work for 10 weeks, a brief stay in a UTSW hospital last summer to detox and was released too early cold turkey and ended up in the ER three times for very high BP and completely out of my mind. Im with a Dr. now that isnt spewing crap from a old manual and he said with me will go this slow route so I can function and work. Hardest thing Ive ever been through, but I am getting there..... STAY AWAY FROM BENZOS please......
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