Bodybuilding and Xanax

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  1. Bodybuilding and Xanax


    Lets get on the topic of bodybuilding and xanax, I've done some research here and I'm getting alot of opinions about the effects of xanax on bodybuilding but no solid referenced research. When I say effects on bodybuilding, I mean the actually bodybuilding effects (protein synthesis, test levels ect.) not psychological effects ( decreased appetite, drowsiness, fatigue ect.)

    If anyone has any web links or referenced material on the topic please shareee thanks.


  2. I have no idea about effects on muscle building. However, I've had to take Xanax prescribed from my doctor and I get the best night sleep, which probably equals improved recovery.

  3. as far as it being anabolic..........i HIGHLY doubt it

    but it would help with resting and relaxing. Good sleep is great for recovering stressed muscles!
    Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general. -Rippetoe
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  4. I don't have any referenced links but I'm pretty sure I've heard that somewhere too... It was something about prescription painkillers increasing GH levels and facilitating recovery or something.

  5. Benzos increase the activity of GABA, which is a neurotransmitter and amino acid that CAN increase GH levels at night. I've had habits with Xanax and Valium and I never saw diminished effects in the gym, but getting off of them can be a BITCH. Be careful

  6. I adopted this crazy ass beagle from the humane society once. It had the worst seperation anxiety ever so the vet prescribed it xanax. Well, I gave the dog away because it was destroying my apartment while I was at work.

    So I have all of this left over Xanax. Every once in a while I take 1 MG. Usually after I train, which is at night. If I take a stimulant before I workout, I can't sleep later on. But 1 MG of Xanax does the trick. I'll get the best sleep of my life and feel great in the morning.

    However, I only do this on rare occasion because I don't want to get accustomed to it or have any withdrawals.

  7. i dont think it is anabolic. I met a guy who use to abuse them(like 10 at a time) and he was rail thin

  8. yeah if ur gettin loaded with 20mg, the last thing on your mind is muscle building. I abused xanax for a couple years and there are weeks of my life that I will never remember..... that **** causes a certain kind of amnesia.
    Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general. -Rippetoe

  9. I have used Valium in the past and even at 10mg and have not had an adverse effects in the gym regarding gains. Lately I've just been taking 1,000.00 mg Valerian nightly and that let's me sleep sound and wake w/out grogginess. And that's after a 300mg stilmulant taken at my evening 6pm workout and going to sleep at 10pm.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by indianballer View Post
    Benzos increase the activity of GABA, which is a neurotransmitter and amino acid that CAN increase GH levels at night. I've had habits with Xanax and Valium and I never saw diminished effects in the gym, but getting off of them can be a BITCH. Be careful
    reps.. you nailed it man. if you're getting quality rest and making sure you're diet is dialed and your work outs are the same.. should be no problem. withdrawals are rough but that's about it

  11. They will not likely hurt you in moderation but it really depends on how often you take them

  12. Xanax has zero effect on body building. All xanax does is trick your gama receptors in your brain so it relaxes them. I've taken it for a month as prescribed for anxiety and while on it i actually made some good gains. Ate like an animal too...put on 5lbs easy.

  13. subbed... interesting topic

  14. I would reckon it has some anti-catabolic effects as it reduces serum levels of cortisol quite significantly, in fact, it is used in some cushings cases. Valium has been shown to increase testosterone as well so its similar mechanism of acton may be applicable. I haven't seen direct research on xanax and test however. It is somewhat of a unique benzodiazepine in its receptor binding.


    I take it for the cortisol effects when i feel overtrained. I doubt it will improve recovery from sleep as some have mentioned as it decreases delta wave sleep, possibly reducing recovery.

  15. Ive always wondered this as Ive had lifelong insomnia and could really stand to start getting RX sleep aids, which I understand are usually benzo based. Glad to hear they arent harmful.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by TexasTitan View Post
    Ive always wondered this as Ive had lifelong insomnia and could really stand to start getting RX sleep aids, which I understand are usually benzo based. Glad to hear they arent harmful.
    you would be better off with trazadone or lyrica as they improve sleep architecture unlike benzos, fyi

  17. i take trazodone.. its the only thing that really works well to put me to sleep.. other then benzos... trazodone is non-narcotic suposedly ..

  18. Quote Originally Posted by bigzach1234 View Post
    i take trazodone.. its the only thing that really works well to put me to sleep.. other then benzos... trazodone is non-narcotic suposedly ..
    Traz can be pretty effective, but i didnt like the sides. Felt kinda hungover all day after taking it, sex drive was ****ed, and insane dreams! But I was also taking it at age 17, something I would never suggest. Xanax, Traz, Ambien, Lunesta..they all just make things worse in the long run.

  19. couldn't sleep for shiit last night... even after taking the usual suspects, melatonin, gaba, mucana, tryptophan. So I popped .5mg Xanax and was out within 20 minutes. Slept maybe 5 or 6 hours and feel great today. I'm surprised you guys are mentioning a "xanax hangover"

  20. No benzos really ever did anything for my insomnia. Then again I never really took them in anticipation of sleeping, usually before social situations and parties, but then again I respond differently to most downers. Opiates and benzos are both confidence boosters/performance enhancers for me. Never nodded off of anything but alcohol and boy.

  21. opiates are such a confidence booster for me.. instead of making me tired and drowsy i feel great and uppey.. if i take 4 percs befofre i go out for the night.. i will get laid.. i know this.. i get so lovey and touchey feely with every girl, it makes me the most loving happy person.. plus i get the biggest dope boners and can **** for hours

  22. i would highly suggest being careful with xanax. Its very strong and can mess you up in the future. I know this isn't help much but i suggest researchign the effects, doses and sides before jumping in.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by bigzach1234 View Post
    opiates are such a confidence booster for me.. instead of making me tired and drowsy i feel great and uppey.. if i take 4 percs befofre i go out for the night.. i will get laid.. i know this.. i get so lovey and touchey feely with every girl, it makes me the most loving happy person.. plus i get the biggest dope boners and can **** for hours
    According to a therapist I was talking to some time ago, this is a reaction by certain people to painkillers, kind of like adderall doesn't really speed people with ADHD up. She told me to be sure to tell the doctor about this reaction when I wanted to try medication (never did) and that it would help my chances of being prescribed klonopin for anxiety. I have no idea how much credibility to give her though, because I've never met someone who tried them who didn't love opiates and get a confidence and mood lift from them.

  24. Ok so i found this thread searching on google.

    I have been taking gaba for over a year now and it does help increase GH levels some but i like to take a high dose 3-4 grams, i will normally feel the tingle and then sweat a little bit more at night. Which would lead you believe GH levels are up.

    I recently started taking 1 mg xanax with my GABA and WOW i sweat like a madman at night now, i need to change my t-shirt half way through the night. Anyone else ever notice this or have a similar effects. If the sweating is an indicator of GH levels then with gaba i am at like Level 3 but GABA + Xanax takes it up to like Level 9.

  25. And i only got 5 hours of sleep yet feel super energized, which could mean higher GH levels allowed my body to recover in 5 hours as opposed to the standard 8 hours of sleep.

  26. if you have an addictive personality-stay far away- thats all im going to say
    Test e/dbol/epi/winnie
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/164764-schwellington-has-been.html

  27. if you wanna get in a random fight pop some xanax and drink some beer!
    mind if i jump in this.....what about hydrocodone 10/325? gives awsome sleep aswell.....or weed which gives me great sleep(i get my best workouts when im buzzing)....but do these 2 have any effects on bodybuilding as far as negitive sides go?

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Necrosis View Post
    I take it for the cortisol effects when i feel overtrained. I doubt it will improve recovery from sleep as some have mentioned as it decreases delta wave sleep, possibly reducing recovery.
    Interesting thread.

    Two drugs which increase delta wave sleep are Lyrica and Flexeril. Another one which works but not as well imo is Baclofen.

    I have tried valium in the past for sleep, but it actually kept me awake all night, tossing and turning. I've been told it can boost norepinephrine in some people if your body tries to fight it's effects. Strange..

  29. Quote Originally Posted by bigzach1234 View Post
    i take trazodone.. its the only thing that really works well to put me to sleep.. other then benzos... trazodone is non-narcotic suposedly ..
    Trazodone gives me huge hangovers that last all day long....just completely lethargic. I'll bet it works well with Stablon though. Trazodone at night, Stablon all day.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by bigzach1234 View Post
    opiates are such a confidence booster for me.. instead of making me tired and drowsy i feel great and uppey.. if i take 4 percs befofre i go out for the night.. i will get laid.. i know this.. i get so lovey and touchey feely with every girl, it makes me the most loving happy person.. plus i get the biggest dope boners and can **** for hours
    Agreed. I also get great lifts in the gym when I'm on opiates like norco cuz I don't feel pain. However, probably not good for the liver at all.

  31. Benzos are highly adictive guys. Be careful.

  32. Quote Originally Posted by bigzach1234 View Post
    opiates are such a confidence booster for me.. instead of making me tired and drowsy i feel great and uppey.. if i take 4 percs befofre i go out for the night.. i will get laid.. i know this.. i get so lovey and touchey feely with every girl, it makes me the most loving happy person.. plus i get the biggest dope boners and can **** for hours

    haha AMEN TO THAT, nothing in the world like a few 500/10s and cute little thang after a long gruesome leg day. Yeah I know 95% of the board prob shook there head after reading this but hey guess were just livin young and fast brother

    I'm back from a longggg nap!

  33. I,ve taken xanax on and off for years for occasional anxiety, but about four months ago I started have full blown anxiety/panic attacks, went to the ER twice, thought I was having a heart attack, with high BP and racing heart rate. Doc went through five different meds to get my BP down, finally found the right combo and that helped with my anxiety, still had some so went to counselor/Doc and she put me on Klonopin during the day and xanax at night if needed, I feel ALOT better and have started to get my life back, I stopped going to gym for four months and had one infection after another and lost 15 lbs in found months prior to getting on these meds, so they have helped me alot along with counseling. Now the not so great effect is I have very little interest in sex and I,ve been on TRT for two years and things in that area have been great, and when
    I do have sex I can go forever an that is unusual for me as well. My regular Doc gave me some Viagra samples and I am a machine in the sack now, anyone know why the Klonopin decreases sex drive so much????

  34. What kind of impact do all these benzo's like neetra,xanax,domicum and dxm/ codeine have on muscle gain? Been hooked on to these recently, helped me losss tons of fat, any impact on muscle gains? I know my internal's are getting pretty screwed...

  35. Ive used Valium for several weeks at a time when I was younger and my metabolism was off the chain to put on weight....slows your metabolism, allowing calories to stick if you are a hardgainer. It was a little hard the first few days to keep from falling asleep but after that i put on 8 lbs of "weight" in about 20 days....because I was skinny to begin with the "puffy-bloat-food weight" looked really good...the only side effect I remember was my short term memory started to get screwed up, couldnt remember where I put my keys, things like that.

  36. All benzos are muscle relaxers. Not convenient for a bodybuilder... Occasional use shouldnt hurt though
    I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Philippians 4:13

  37. I took Xanax regularly for a couple years in high school when I very first started lifting. Sometimes I'd take upwards of 10bars in a night. Messes you up that's for sure. Nights ill never remember. They are dangerous though. I crashed my car into a telephone pole on them and shattered my cheek bone and eye socket. Not to mention totaled my first car. And now 6 years later still in debt from the med bills.... But as far muscle building effects I think there are none. Just might take away from your training if used recreationally and not just for sleep.

  38. Quote Originally Posted by BigD61093 View Post
    I took Xanax regularly for a couple years in high school when I very first started lifting. Sometimes I'd take upwards of 10bars in a night. Messes you up that's for sure. Nights ill never remember. They are dangerous though. I crashed my car into a telephone pole on them and shattered my cheek bone and eye socket. Not to mention totaled my first car. And now 6 years later still in debt from the med bills.... But as far muscle building effects I think there are none. Just might take away from your training if used recreationally and not just for sleep.
    4 mg of rivotril and a j of dro a couple years back almost got my ass run over hahaha! near death experience right there.
    I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. Philippians 4:13

  39. Quote Originally Posted by ashe555 View Post
    What kind of impact do all these benzo's like neetra,xanax,domicum and dxm/ codeine have on muscle gain? Been hooked on to these recently, helped me losss tons of fat, any impact on muscle gains? I know my internal's are getting pretty screwed...
    Umm dxm and codeine are not benzos, codeine's an opiate and well dextromethorphan is more chemically close to ketamine and phencycladine(PCP) not sure what they're classified as but they're def not benzodiazepines. Benzos are gaba agonists while dxm, K, and PCP are nmda antagonists.
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