Q & A for ASSASS1NATE

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by NoAddedHmones View Post
    For someone looking to gain muscle, or even retain muscle during a cut, berberine is a pretty bad idea if you are natty.

    Quoted

    “Berberine impairs muscle metabolism by two novel mechanisms. It impairs mitochonidrial function stimulating the expression of atrogin-1 without affecting phosphorylation of forkhead transcription factors. The increase in atrogin-1 not only stimulated protein degradation but also suppressed protein synthesis, causing muscle atrophy.”

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20522589/

    Btw i get its a mice study, but @xtyler and myself have used berberine a varying dosages and occasions in the past and we both always found within weeks we were noticably weaker and muscles were flatter...
    Interesting,
    Is this a long term effect? Would berberine on rest days still be a bad idea?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by xtyler View Post
    ...OR the effect would be a sum of the two parts
    that's an option , but after seeing what tren did in 1 month id probably save assassin till after tren, but other anabolics yeah that would be good choice
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  3. just bought a bottle of this. Excited to try it out.
    What would you guys recommend dosage wise when stacking with forskolin 95 and reduce xt?
    On IF and low carb (25-50g a day on average) so my meal plan usually looks like this:

    —Wake up:
    Decaf or regular cofee
    Reduce xt
    F95

    —Reduce XT 4 hours later

    —Assass1nate 2x caps 45 minutes before Meal #1?

    —Meal #1:
    12pm-1pm

    —F95 8 hours later after waking up

    —Assass1nate 2x caps 45 minutes before Meal #2?

    —Meal #2:
    8-9pm or so.

    —Reduce XT pre bed. Maybe 1x Assass1nate cap?

  4. @xtyler...this one is definitely for you

  5. Keep it easy. Also no need to tweak anything if you add Reduce XT and F95.
    Take 2 caps of Assass1nate 15-30' before your two meals. No need for a pre-bed dose.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by xtyler View Post
    Keep it easy. Also no need to tweak anything if you add Reduce XT and F95.
    Take 2 caps of Assass1nate 15-30' before your two meals. No need for a pre-bed dose.
    thanks!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by swaneon View Post
    thanks!
    @xtyler is the “go to” person for answering questions about how to dose Assass1nate. He really enjoys helping people out with this...loves it!

    I knew he wouldn’t let you down..

  8. One thing. Sometimes I'll use 1-2x 750mg of Phenibut 2-3 hours before a meal. Are there any negative interactions between Phenibut and Assass1nate?
    Thanks!

  9. Hi , just received Assass1nate, the label says take 1 capsule before each meal of the day but here is suggested 2 caps before the 2 largest meals. Any difference?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by swaneon View Post
    One thing. Sometimes I'll use 1-2x 750mg of Phenibut 2-3 hours before a meal. Are there any negative interactions between Phenibut and Assass1nate?
    Thanks!
    It's fine.
    Quote Originally Posted by Thor Bara View Post
    Hi , just received Assass1nate, the label says take 1 capsule before each meal of the day but here is suggested 2 caps before the 2 largest meals. Any difference?
    Dosing scheme is flexible. Two caps twice a day before your largest meals is ok, so is 2/1/1 or 1/2/1 or 1/1/2.
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  11. Tbh, I dose 3 caps 1 time per day. Great fullness here so I’m not changing a thing

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Tylerclee View Post
    Tbh, I dose 3 caps 1 time per day. Great fullness here so I’m not changing a thing
    Whatever works best for you. I know guys following the Warrior Diet and they dose all 4 caps before their only late large meal
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by xtyler View Post
    It's fine.


    Dosing scheme is flexible. Two caps twice a day before your largest meals is ok, so is 2/1/1 or 1/2/1 or 1/1/2.
    Thanks for the answer, i'm dosing 2 caps with post workout meal and 2 with dinner. I have seen some of the ingredients have anti-inflammatory , anti-oxidants properties.
    Do you still recommend it post workout? (for me it's usually 90 minutes after i've finished my intra drink)

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Thor Bara View Post
    Thanks for the answer, i'm dosing 2 caps with post workout meal and 2 with dinner. I have seen some of the ingredients have anti-inflammatory , anti-oxidants properties.
    Do you still recommend it post workout? (for me it's usually 90 minutes after i've finished my intra drink)
    I'm not concerned about its mild antioxidant properties hindering adaptation to training, especially 90' post-workout. I personally wouldn't take a dose post-wo (unless it's a huge meal heavily laden with carbs) because that's when your insulin sensitivity is at its highest anyway.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by xtyler View Post
    I'm not concerned about its mild antioxidant properties hindering adaptation to training, especially 90' post-workout. I personally wouldn't take a dose post-wo (unless it's a huge meal heavily laden with carbs) because that's when your insulin sensitivity is at its highest anyway.
    That's my current diet (cutting)

    Wake Up : humapro(eaa's) + pre workout

    Training : hbcd (hbcd) + peptopro

    Post workout meal : (90 minutes later) carbs + pro + trace of fats

    Dinner : carbs + protein + fats

    Pre bed : protein + fats

    So when will you dose the Assass1nate ? Maybe 1 caps pre workout 1 caps pre post workout meal and 2 pre dinner?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Thor Bara View Post
    That's my current diet (cutting)

    Wake Up : humapro(eaa's) + pre workout

    Training : hbcd (hbcd) + peptopro

    Post workout meal : (90 minutes later) carbs + pro + trace of fats

    Dinner : carbs + protein + fats

    Pre bed : protein + fats

    So when will you dose the Assass1nate ? Maybe 1 caps pre workout 1 caps pre post workout meal and 2 pre dinner?
    So no carbs until 90' post-wo (besides the intra HBCD)? Then I'd stick to 3 caps(one before your post-wo meal and 2 before dinner). Add a 4th cap pre-wo if you use +30gr HBCD
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  17. How would you dose this product for someone who backloads their carbs. I consume all of my carbs between 6-9 pm. Thanks

  18. Quote Originally Posted by jrb_062 View Post
    How would you dose this product for someone who backloads their carbs. I consume all of my carbs between 6-9 pm. Thanks
    I would still have 2 caps in the morning before your first meal and the other two before you carb meals begin at night.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by xtyler View Post
    Whatever works best for you. I know guys following the Warrior Diet and they dose all 4 caps before their only late large meal
    i do warrior diet to cut but i also take 2x1 cap fasted without meals and it seems to work..
    any negatives with doing so? i am not going hypo if thats the only thing..

  20. Quote Originally Posted by ManuR View Post
    i do warrior diet to cut but i also take 2x1 cap fasted without meals and it seems to work..
    any negatives with doing so? i am not going hypo if thats the only thing..
    You don't get hypo even when you take 4 caps and don't eat anything for hours indeed. Sensitizers are not exogenous insulin.
    Do what works best for you. This way you're only missing (partially) some of its GDA properties, but it still promotes fat loss via other pathways.
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  21. Q & A for ASSASS1NATE


    I do mini-bulks (4-6 weeks) and mini-cuts (2-4 weeks) year round. I'm coming up on a new cut period and wondering if I should add some Assass1nate for fun. I really don't need any fat burning help as I keep very lean year round. But the GDA properties interest me.

    I have a log going but I'm running Or1gin and Tr1umph right now. Is there any benefit to adding Assass1nate to such a short period? Or should it be used for a longer time to get the benefits? Also will it stack with Or1gin?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by TheMrMuscle View Post
    I do mini-bulks (4-6 weeks) and mini-cuts (2-4 weeks) year round. I'm coming up on a new cut period and wondering if I should add some Assass1nate for fun. I really don't need any fat burning help as I keep very lean year round. But the GDA properties interest me.

    I have a log going but I'm running Or1gin and Tr1umph right now. Is there any benefit to adding Assass1nate to such a short period? Or should it be used for a longer time to get the benefits? Also will it stack with Or1gin?
    Assassinate has both acute and long term benefits. The fat burning benefits are of course more noticeable over time. The GDA-like benefits are realized every time you dose before a higher carb meal which is ideal for your case.

    Assassinate stacks well with Origin, hell it stacks well with everything
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by TheMrMuscle View Post
    I do mini-bulks (4-6 weeks) and mini-cuts (2-4 weeks) year round. I'm coming up on a new cut period and wondering if I should add some Assass1nate for fun. I really don't need any fat burning help as I keep very lean year round. But the GDA properties interest me.

    I have a log going but I'm running Or1gin and Tr1umph right now. Is there any benefit to adding Assass1nate to such a short period? Or should it be used for a longer time to get the benefits? Also will it stack with Or1gin?
    Personally, I -loved- stacking Or1gin and Assass1nate. Increased appetite/nutrients uptake/IGF-1 signalling paired with Assass1nate's excellent GDA properties worked great for me.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by GNO View Post
    Assassinate has both acute and long term benefits. The fat burning benefits are of course more noticeable over time. The GDA-like benefits are realized every time you dose before a higher carb meal which is ideal for your case.

    Assassinate stacks well with Origin, hell it stacks well with everything
    Quote Originally Posted by xtyler View Post
    Personally, I -loved- stacking Or1gin and Assass1nate. Increased appetite/nutrients uptake/IGF-1 signalling paired with Assass1nate's excellent GDA properties worked great for me.
    Thanks fellas, 3 bottles ordered.

    Oh and @GNO the link to the write up is dead and the one on the Olympus site seems short. Is there anywhere I can read the original write up?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by TheMrMuscle View Post
    Thanks fellas, 3 bottles ordered.

    Oh and @GNO the link to the write up is dead and the one on the Olympus site seems short. Is there anywhere I can read the original write up?
    I’ll look into another means of posting it today.
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