Q & A for OLYMPUS LABS BLOODSHR3D - RAW EDITION
- 09-13-2016, 06:24 PM
Q & A for OLYMPUS LABS BLOODSHR3D - RAW EDITION
BLOODSHR3D RAW EDITION
Olympus Labs has already covered the fat burning category with IGNIT3, a potent and effective supplement that targets 5 fat burning pathways, but it is time for the next innovation in weight loss supplementation.. As perfect as IGNIT3 may seem, it has one shortcoming ...it is a capsule supplement. Why that is an issue? There are limitations on the ingredients that can be used in terms of taste and dosage since no one wants to take dozens of capsules on a daily basis. Most companies resolve this problem by underdosing most, if not all, of the ingredients in their fat burner. Those who have used IGNIT3 can TEST1FY that Olympus Labs takes no shortcuts. Another drawback of a capsule product is it can’t taste delicious. It would be great to enjoy a tasty drink that helps you to get shredded! The DemiGod R&D team took on this very challenge, to design a powdered fat burner on the same level as IGNIT3.
Spoiler Alert:They nailed it! A new thermogenic powerhouse has been born with 8 ingredients all perfectly dosed to get you shredded to the bone. Olympus Labs understands the blood and sweat that you pour into the battle to achieve the perfect physique. To that end, we are proud to present the latest innovation in thermogenic supplementation, BLOODSHR3D!
BLOODSHR3D is jam packed with all the ingredients you need to get ripped in two matrices that will deliver results. The Extreme Energy, Focus and Thermogenic Trifecta features a potent blend of stimulants; Rauwolfia Serpentina, Eria Jarensis and J. Regia. This combination worked so effectively in IGNIT3 it was a no brainer to include it in BLOODSHR3D. Since Olympus Labs uses only the most pure and potent extracts a full serving of these ingredients in BLOODSHR3D will hit hard and elicit an insane amount of energy and focus. It will also kickstart the fat burning process because these three ingredients act upon the central nervous system to induce thermogenesis.
With the thermogenic engine in overdrive, let's slam on the accelerator with The Maximum Lipolysis Activation Blend. It consists of 250mg caffeine, 1,000mg of Green Coffee Bean Extract, 100mg Rhodiola Rosea, 400mg Rutin and 100mg Vanillin. The constituents of this blend will work in tandem to stimulate energy metabolism and promote fat loss to get you shredded!
As aforementioned, BLOODSHR3D will be a powdered supplement. Olympus Labs understands that flavour is important and we are committed to provide a delicious drink that will make fat burning a breeze. However, it is not just a tasty drink, it is primarily a thermogenic powerhouse designed to incinerate fat just like its sister product, IGNIT3. One serving is split into a 2 scoop serving size for ultimate dosing flexibility. Even at 1-1.5 scoops, BLOODSHR3D has adequate amounts of each ingredient to yield results, which if dosed in that manner would yield 45-60 servings. Olympus Labs’ motto of Innovation, Value and Results in action!
Extreme Energy, Focus and Thermogenic Trifecta
Olympus Labs uses three very potent stimulants; Rauwolfia Serpentina, Eria Jarensis and J. Regia to deliver an extreme increase in energy and focus. Furthermore, these three ingredients are adrenergic substances which act upon the sympathetic nervous system to activate a sequence of nerve cell firing and a chemical release of epinephrine (adrenaline), norepinephrine in the blood stream. The release of these chemicals will elicit an intense thermogenic response and can be utilized for fat loss.
Wait, this blend of ingredients looks very familiar. Well it should, because it was the same stimulant blend that Olympus Labs used in the popular capsule fat burner, IGNIT3. It is also utilized here because it has proven to be extremely effective, verified by the myriad of rave reviews received to date. Similar to IGNIT3 the individual doses for the blend are not disclosed. The reason for that is simply to protect our competitive advantage, not to shortchange the customer. Rest assured that at 306mg per scoop in a 45 serving container, there will be no shortage of fat incineration.
Rauwolscine, also known as α-yohimbine, is an alkaloid of Rauwolfia Serpentina. It is an alpha-2 adrenergic antagonist, that causes increases in epinephrine and norepinephrine in the blood stream. When exposed to epinephrine and norepinephrine, alpha-2 receptor sites inhibit lipolysis, the breakdown of fat. Since rauwolscine acts as an alpha-2 blocker it reverses that action and stimulates lipolysis.
There are a few studies that confirm that rauwolscine binds with comparable nanomolar affinity to alpha 2 adrenoceptors and the nonadrenergic 5-HT autoreceptors sites in human frontal cortex membranes. The studies all concluded that rauwolscine has agonistic properties at the level of 5-HT autoreceptors
Eria Jarensis is an orchidaceae alkaloid, meaning it is derived from the orchid family of flowering plants. It is the only known plant derivative to contain N-phenethyl dimethylamine. Phenethylyamines (PEA) Increases levels of epinephrine and norepinephrine that can stimulate beta-adrenergic receptors located on adipose (fat) tissue to release fatty acids into circulation as a fuel source. However, PEAs effects are relatively short-lived because the compound is broken down by the MAO-B enzyme within hours. N-Phenethyl dimethylamine rectifies that issue so you can realize the thermogenic benefits without having to dose the ingredient every few hours for it to be effective as you would PEA. Therefore, Eria Jarensis has become popular as a supplement for its energy and thermogenic benefits.
J. Regia is a source of various psychoactive alkaloids and Olympus Labs uses a custom extract of it in BLOODSHR3D. Olympus Labs has established J. Regia as a premier energy boosting stimulant. Those who have used CONQU3R UNLEASHED, IGNIT3 or EL1XIR know how remarkable this ingredient can be. It is also becoming common knowledge that J. Regia has potent focus and mood elevating benefits. It has also been observed to suppress appetite so can be useful when dieting. Therefore, it is only logical that we utilize this exceptional ingredient in BLOODSHR3D.
Maximum Lipolysis Activation Blend
Although the previous matrix was duplicated from the best capsule fat burner available, IGNIT3, with the exception of the caffeine.the rest of the formula is quite different. This matrix is primarily focused with stimulating lipolysis, the decomposition of stored fat. This process activates enzymes that increase production of cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) which activates protein kinase A.
The secondary objective of this blend is to increase energy expenditure to ensure those fatty acids are shed. The Maximum Lipolysis Activation Blend is comprised of five ingredients that achieve these two objectives; 250mg of caffeine, 1,000mg Green Coffee Bean Extract, 100mg Rhodiola Rosea, 400mg Rutin and 100mg Vanillin.
Caffeine is a tried and true supplement that has been studied extensively. It is known to increase focus, mental alertness and reduces symptoms of fatigue due to its ability to produce higher dopamine levels in areas of the brain that are linked to “attention”. It also increases energy expenditure and lipolysis so it is a perfect addition to the Maximum Lipolysis Activation Blend.
A double-blind study in healthy subjects who had moderate habitual caffeine consumption investigated the effect on placebo and 100, 200, and 400 mg oral caffeine on energy expenditure, plasma concentrations of substrates and hormones, blood pressure, and heart rate. Caffeine dose dependently increased energy expenditure and the thermogenic response was positively correlated with the response in plasma caffeine (r = 0.52; p less than 0.018), plasma lactate (r = 0.79; p less than 0.000001), and plasma triglyceride (r = 0.53; p less than 0.02). These results indicate an increase in energy expenditure and thermogenic response from caffeine consumption.
A study was conducted to determine the relationship between paraxanthine (caffeine's major dimethylxanthine metabolite) and free fatty acid (FFA) mobilization after intravenous caffeine administration. 10 men received a dose of 4mg of caffeine per kilogram of lean body mass. Venous blood samples were obtained before dosing and at multiple time intervals (5, 10, 15, 30, 45, 60, 90, 120, 150, and 180 minutes). Serum levels of FFA, glycerol, caffeine, and paraxanthine were determined in duplicate. Concentrations of FFA and glycerol were corrected for plasma volume changes. A high negative correlation was seen between decreases in caffeine and increases in FFA (r = -0.90) and a high positive correlation was seen between the appearance of paraxanthine and FFA (r = 0.93). It was concluded that paraxanthine may play a role in increased lipolysis after caffeine administration in humans.
Green Coffee Bean Extract
Green Coffee Bean Extract (GCBE) has developed somewhat of a poor reputation, largely because it was touted as a miracle weight loss supplement. Unfortunately, GCBE could not live up to these unrealistic expectations and further discredited when it was discovered that several studies were poorly designed and executed. Fortunately, most of those studies have been withdrawn and we are left with reliable data to form a new opinion of GCBE. So is it really a miracle weight loss supplement? No, but it can be an effective supplement when combined with other weight loss aids. Now that we have established what GCBE is not, let's discuss what it is.
GCBE is derived from the green or raw coffee bean and contains several components including caffeine, theophylline and chlorogenic acid (CGA). Since CGA is found in the greatest amount in GCBE it has been the primary focus of research which has shown lipolytic and weight-loss properties. CGA is a polyphenol that has antioxidant properties and influences glucose, fat, and brain energy metabolism. One study concluded that the CGA component of GCBE clearly showed the release of free fatty acids. Olympus Labs uses GCBE containing 50% CGA, the highest extract available.
A clinical study conducted found that supplementation with decaffeinated green coffee bean extract (GCBE), containing 45-50% Chlorogenic acid significantly reduced the progression of a loss in glucose-tolerance response caused by a high-fat diet. The study also found GCBE improved brain mitochondrial energy metabolism as determined by oxygen consumption rate. Follow-up gene expression profiling with Agilent whole-genome microarray revealed that the decaffeinated coffee treatment modulated a number of genes in the brain that are implicated in cellular energy metabolism.
An in-vitro study found Chlorogenic acid significantly inhibited Glucose-6-phosphatase (Glc-6-P) hydrolysis in intact human liver microsomes in a competitive manner. Glc-6-P is a multicomponent system that exists primarily in the liver and catalyzes the terminal step in gluconeogenesis and glycogenolysis. The inhibition of Glc-6-P will have antidiabetic and glucose-lowering effects by reducing hepatic glucose production.
Rutin is a non-nutritive component of several foods, including apples, citrus, buckwheat, and onions. Rutin is a glycoside of quercetin, a supplement well known for its antioxidant properties and its ability to mitigate inflammation. Rutin has been shown, in animal models, to prevent and reverse symptoms of metabolic syndrome, including abdominal fat pads, glucose tolerance, changes in hepatic and cardiovascular structure and function, oxidative stress and inflammation in the liver and heart.
In an in vitro study, human macrophages, a line of white blood cells, were treated with rutoside (RU) and then analyzed for inflammation-related gene expression using a specific array. RU inhibited inflammation-related gene expression in activated human macrophages and the release of nitric oxide, tumor necrosis factor-alpha, interleukin (IL)-1, and IL-6 from these cells. RU was also injected into adjuvant-induced arthritic rats. In the rat model, RU inhibited clinical signs of chronic arthritis, correlating with decreased levels of inflammatory cytokines detected in rat cell lines. Therefore, RU may be a hold promise as a clinical treatment to reduce inflammatory manifestations in human arthritis and other inflammatory diseases.
In another clinical trial, employing both in vitro and in vivo approaches, the ability of rutin in blocking macrophage-mediated inflammation and high fat diet-induced obesity and fatty liver was investigated. It was found that cells pre-exposed to Rutin suppressed mRNA levels of pro-inflammatory cytokines, a range of proteins that can have an inhibiting effect on the immune system. The suppression was correlated with a decrease in transcription of genes responsible for ER stress and production of reactive oxygen species. In vivo, rutin was observed to be protect mice from high fat diet-induced obesity, fatty liver and insulin resistance. The protective effects were associated with lack of hypertrophy and crown-like structures in the white adipose tissue, decreased mRNA levels of marker genes for macrophages including F4/80, Cd11c and Cd68, and repressed transcription of genes involved in chronic inflammation such as Mcp1 and Tnfα in white adipose tissue. In addition, rutin increased the expression of genes responsible for energy expenditure in brown adipose tissue including Pgc1α and Dio2. Rutin was also observed to suppress transcription of Srebp1c and Cd36 in the liver, leading to a blockade of fatty liver development. These results align with other studies on Rutin and suggest that supplementation can block macrophage-mediated inflammation and inflammation-induced obesity and its associated complications.
High-fat diet-induced obese rats were given rutin in order to investigate the effect on mitochondrial biogenesis in skeletal muscle. Decreased mitochondrial number and dysfunction in skeletal muscle are associated with obesity and the progression of obesity-associated metabolic disorders. A reduction in body weight and adipose tissue mass was observed in the supplemented group, despite equivalent energy intake (p < 0.05). Rutin significantly increased mitochondrial size and mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) content as well as gene expression related to mitochondrial biogenesis, such as peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor γ coactivator-1α (PGC-1α), nuclear respiratory factor-1 (NRF-1), transcription factor A (Tfam), and nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (NAD)-dependent deacetylase, sirtulin1 (SIRT1) in skeletal muscle (p < 0.05). In addition, rutin increased muscle adenosine monophosphate-activated protein kinase (AMPK) activity by 40% (p < 0.05). Based on these results, rutin may have a beneficial effect on muscle mitochondria and AMPK activation, thus leading to weight loss.
Rhodiola Rosea Extract (RR) is an adaptogenic compound, a class of substances known to normalize body functions and increase resistance to stress. Rhodiola Rosea is one of the most effective supplements amongst the class of adaptogens. Due to its stress regulation, RR has a positive influence on fatigue reduction; resulting in an increase in energy and endurance. There are two main components of Rhodiola Rosea; Rosavins and Salidrosides. The Rosavin component is largely responsible for the anti-stress, anti-anxiety and anti-oxidant benefits RR delivers. The salidroside component is the more potent of the two, known to also act as a stress reducer, but more noteworthy is its anti-cancer and anti-diabetic benefits. Based on research conducted on human bone marrow samples, Salidroside was found to induce the phosphorlyation of Akt, mTOR and p70 S6 kinase. In addition, Salidroside stimulates ERK1/2 which is associated with cell migration and capillary tube formation.
In another study, the metabolic effects of salidroside was analyzed on rat skeletal muscle cells. Salidroside dose-dependently stimulated glucose uptake in differentiated L6 rat myoblast cells. Western blotting analyses revealed that salidroside increased the phosphorylation level of AMPK and acetyl-CoA carboxylase (ACC). In addition, salidroside enhanced insulin-mediated Akt activation and glucose uptake. These results indicate salidroside can activate AMPK and subsequently have a positive effects on glucose transport activation and insulin sensitivity.
Considering stress is believed to be a contributing factor to binge eating (BE), the stress reducer, Rhodiola rosea was investigated as a potential treatment for the disorder. A Rhodiola rosea dry extract (3% rosavin, 3.12% salidroside) were given to female rats for the study. Rhodiola rosea extract at 10mg/kg significantly reduced the BE tendencies and 20mg/kg completely abolished them. R. rosea extract at 20mg/kg also mitigated a stress-induced increase in serum corticosterone levels. The study concluded that salidroside component of Rhodiola rosea is the active principle responsible for this effect.
In a study with 24 healthy volunteers, 12 male and 12 female, were given a dose of 100 mg Rhodiola Rosea. After just 4 days of supplementation a signiﬁcant increase in time to exhaustion, VO2, VCO2, peak O2 output, and peak CO2 output was observed.
Another study, with 22 professional rowers, that were given 100 mg of Rhodiola Rosea twice daily for a 4 week period found a significant increase in total plasma antioxidant capacity and a decrease in superoxide dismutase (SOD) activity. SOD is an enzyme produced as a result of oxygen metabolism (ie. intensive activity) and can lead to cell damage if not mitigated. These results suggest that continuous supplementation of Rhodiola Rosea can improve endurance
Vanillin is the synthetic form of vanilla bean extract, most commonly used as a flavouring agent in foods and pharmaceuticals. However, it has several other benefits which has prompted its use in various supplements. It has anti-oxidative properties and has also been found to elevate mood via olfactory pathways. Vanillin increased both serotonin and dopamine levels in brain tissue, thus relieving depressive-like behaviors in the CUMS-induced animal model via vanillin aromatherapy. Vanillin is also a selective agonist of transient receptor potential vanilloid subtype 1 (TRPV1). TRPV1 agonists are known to increase energy metabolism and induce lipolysis.
A study was conducted to evaluate the effect of vanillin on the lipid profile of high fat diet induced hyperlipidemia in rats. The hyperlipidemia was induced by feeding wistar rats of either sex a cholesterol-rich high fat diet for 45 days. Vanillin. A significant reduction in triglycerides, VLDL-C and total cholesterol levels were observed in the supplemented group. These results demonstrate that vanillin can lower the serum triglyceride, VLDL-C and total cholesterol level significantly in high fat diet induced hyperlipidemic rats.
In order to succeed in the battle to lose weight and get shredded you need to arm yourself with a premium weapon. Until recently there were limited options worth pursuing that provided any benefits beyond a boost from stimulants. Olympus Labs corrected that injustice with the release of IGNIT3, completely annihilating the competition. Now victory is that much closer with the addition of a new weapon to your arsenal with the powdered fat burner product, BLOODSHR3D.
Similar to IGNIT3, BLOODSHR3D will produce intense energy and focus from The Extreme Energy, Focus and Thermogenic Trifecta. The energy and focus is so explosive, BLOODSHR3D can also be a non-pump pre-workout. Furthermore, it will IGNIT3 your thermogenic furnace to commence the fat burning process. The Maximum Lipolysis Activation Blend builds off of this momentum to further burn fat via enhanced energy metabolism.
BLOODSHR3D was designed for hardcore DemiGods and DemiGoddesses and as such is extremely potent and effective. It contains a total of 8 ingredients, all at complete doses that work in tandem to deliver results. Unlike the competition there will be no need whatsoever to exceed one serving. In fact, BLOODSHR3D will still be effective at ½ - ¾ a serving, resulting in an exceptional value. Olympus Labs delivers Innovation, Value & Results with all of our products and BLOODSHR3D is no exception.
Ally yourself with Olympus Labs and get ready to TR1UMPH in this war on fat for there will be blood shed, in fact there will be BLOODSHR3ED!
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09-13-2016, 06:56 PM
These are the same, but one has Alpha-Y and the other does not, right? (Skimmed through both write ups)
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09-13-2016, 07:24 PM
The write-up says: "Rest assured that at 306mg per scoop in a 45 scoop container..."
However, the label picture of another thread says: "Serving size: 2 scoops. Servings per container: 45", which would yield 90 scoops in the container, right?
So, is it a 45 scoop ou 90 scoop container?
I think the first phrase should be:"Rest assured that at 306mg per SERVING in a 45 SERVING container..."
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OLYMPUS UK REP
Use JEBROOK30 for 30% off at
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09-13-2016, 09:24 PM
Oh my oh my!!!
Current Log: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/277069-new-year-new.html#post5232295
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Yeah these releases are frustrating to plan around. I have Or1gin incoming which I planned to try solo, and this coming out. Hmm.
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