At least nutri-verse.com seems to have it in stock!Do you have any in stock?
I am going to run DYMETHAZI9E/TR3ST for a 5 week cycle and this is my plan. I planned on a 5 week cycle so I only need 1 bottle of each.You really can't beat the value in our DYMETHAZI9E, I mean if you are advanced run it at 60mg for a month and look out, or you can do 40mg for 6 wks... Either way serious gains and minimal sides. By the way just like g0hard said you can pick it up at Nutri-verse.com right now.
Sounds good. I'd run Formeron during the cycle too - it converts to 4-hydroxytestosterone so it can be slightly suppressive. Some people like it during PCT too though - whatever floats your boat. I personally would pick another AI/test booster for PCT - SUP3R PCT is a good one.I am going to run DYMETHAZI9E/TR3ST for a 5 week cycle and this is my plan. I planned on a 5 week cycle so I only need 1 bottle of each.
Cycle Support will be started 2 weeks prior to cycle and ran until the end of PCT
DYMETHAZI9E 40,40,40,60,60
TR3ST 50,75,100,100,100
PCT
Clomid 50,50,25,25
Formeron at 100mgs a day for 30 days
Reduce XT
BLR's new natty tbooster
Prolactrone
I also will be running GHRP6 as well.
Thanks.Sounds good. I'd run Formeron during the cycle too - it converts to 4-hydroxytestosterone so it can be slightly suppressive. Some people like it during PCT too though - whatever floats your boat. I personally would pick another AI/test booster for PCT - SUP3R PCT is a good one.
I'd probably run Prolactrone during the cycle too.
Something to consider is that Formestane is only suppressive in very high doses. Nothing like what is run in PCT. He would need to be running the formestane above 200mg and that is being generous really for suppression would be closer to 300-400mg a day to get enough conversion to cause suppression. Doses from 50-100 a day won't be any problem in PCT. They have done studies lasting over 6 months of formestane use where peoples test levels stayed elevated with no breaks or time off. You just have to decide if you are using it as an AI or a ProHormone the dosing is completely different. Kind of like with 11-OXO at 100-300mg a day not suppressive and really only an anticortisol product at that dose. Now 400-1000mg is when it will cause some suppression because it converts into an androgen as well.Sounds good. I'd run Formeron during the cycle too - it converts to 4-hydroxytestosterone so it can be slightly suppressive. Some people like it during PCT too though - whatever floats your boat. I personally would pick another AI/test booster for PCT - SUP3R PCT is a good one.
I'd probably run Prolactrone during the cycle too.
Interesting. Then maybe formestane has it's place in PCT protocol too.Something to consider is that Formestane is only suppressive in very high doses. Nothing like what is run in PCT. He would need to be running the formestane above 200mg and that is being generous really for suppression would be closer to 300-400mg a day to get enough conversion to cause suppression. Doses from 50-100 a day won't be any problem in PCT. They have done studies lasting over 6 months of formestane use where peoples test levels stayed elevated with no breaks or time off. You just have to decide if you are using it as an AI or a ProHormone the dosing is completely different. Kind of like with 11-OXO at 100-300mg a day not suppressive and really only an anticortisol product at that dose. Now 400-1000mg is when it will cause some suppression because it converts into an androgen as well.
Never heard that before.....Does anyone else here get nausuated when you take DYMETHAZ9NE (DMZ)? I'm on week 4 @ 40mg with TR3ST.
Well I'm running a sponsored log of it right now actually, but I am just looking for a good recomp while maintaining my athletic ability.I have never had DMZ cause any endurance problems for me. I don't find myself winded from it, the only thing that ever cut a workout short was a nasty back pump once when supersetting SLDL and leg press. Was never an issue with breathing or getting wind for me.
What are your main goals for running a Designer?
I get the same thing sometimes after my morning dose for some reason. Usually lasts about 20 minutes then goes awayDoes anyone else here get nausuated when you take DYMETHAZ9NE (DMZ)? I'm on week 4 @ 40mg with TR3ST.
DYMETHAZI9E is more potent and it'll add more size too. If strength without too much size is your main goal, I'd go with D1METHADROL.would this or Tr3n be better if someone was looking for some size but great strength gains?
Second that.DYMETHAZI9E is more potent and it'll add more size too. If strength without too much size is your main goal, I'd go with D1METHADROL.
Just spread those caps out evenly throughout the day. Take one cap preworkout on training days.So quick question
I'm starting my dmz tr3st cycle in a month. If I work at at 5 am when is the best time to take the dmz?
Ill be running
40/40/40/60/60/60
I usually wake up at 4 to eat a little something before I lift. I've been told taking PH on an empty stomach will diminish effects. Any truth to this?
It should be pretty good without test/trest base too.Is running dmz without a test/Trest base still worth it? Or are lethargy, libido, etc, too bad without a base?
Yes, check out my log. I'm doing that right now. At higher doses (60mg). No problems.Is running dmz without a test/Trest base still worth it? Or are lethargy, libido, etc, too bad without a base?
In all honesty the halflife of DMZ is so long 2 doses a day would be fine. It has a 16 hour half life so with 2 doses there is overlap. Obviously if you want to spread them out even more there will be more overlap but in the end even 2 doses a day will keep your levels stable enough to always be quite anabolic.So quick question
I'm starting my dmz tr3st cycle in a month. If I work at at 5 am when is the best time to take the dmz?
Ill be running
40/40/40/60/60/60
I usually wake up at 4 to eat a little something before I lift. I've been told taking PH on an empty stomach will diminish effects. Any truth to this?
Absolutely! People have been doing it forever. Sure you may get tired, and libido typically doesn't get too bad actually increases the first couple weeks then starts to drop. However i wouldn't expect deca-dick from it just you not being in the mood as much. As in someone else has to initiate it and you actually have to get turned on instead of just being horny. So it isn't all that. One of the biggest things i notice people complaining of and actually calling it lethargy is from going hypo from people not managing their glycogen levels correctly. A whole lot of IGF-1 gets expressed in the muscles on DMZ so you have a naturally strong GDA properties. YOur muscles will soak up carbs like they are going out of style. You eat a small amount of simple carbs and create an insulin response without using some slower releasing carbs your muscles will soak up all the blood sugar and you will find yourself hypo to the point of falling asleep like a narcoleptic. So if you plan on eating carbs keep sources mixed to avoid blood sugar issues.Is running dmz without a test/Trest base still worth it? Or are lethargy, libido, etc, too bad without a base?
Sorry to hear that... What does your water intake and cycle support look like?? I'm going to need some info so I can try to help you out..I gotta say, been running this at 40mg per day for the last 2.5 weeks. This stuff treats my stomach like battery acid. Stomach aches and feels bloaty constantly. I generally feel like **** all the time in my stomach. I'm about to pinch it off.
Exactly....are there any other new things you are taking along side it?Sorry to hear that... What does your water intake and cycle support look like?? I'm going to need some info so I can try to help you out..
Kidney/Liver stress is know to cause lack of appetite, by a lot of water is it over a gallon a day?? Are you tracking your water or just assuming cause you may be drinking less than you think.. Also is your urine dark???This is exactly how I feel. It's all I can do to eat because I just about always have this dull ache that increases intensity at times, eating just makes me feel more bloated.
I don't really feel too nauseated, just crampy and bloaty. Is this what PMS feels like lol? . I am seeing some moderate strength gains, but I feel like **** a good deal of time it's not really helping my motivation in the gym.
How long did you run it?My stomach felt the same. Also felt very nausuated and had a hard time eating. Only towards the end of my cycle that my stomach felt better and my hunger came back. Made some gains though!
Are you stomach sensitive to other things? Do other supplements, vitamins, medications, etc. also give you stomach issues?This is exactly how I feel. It's all I can do to eat because I just about always have this dull ache that increases intensity at times, eating just makes me feel more bloated.
I don't really feel too nauseated, just crampy and bloaty. Is this what PMS feels like lol? . I am seeing some moderate strength gains, but I feel like **** a good deal of time it's not really helping my motivation in the gym.