True, my bulks are more like recomps / lean bulks. I prefer to stay as dry as I can. I'm a big fan of androgens for that reason, which is why I've got my eyes on 1-T. It's like a stronger EQ from everything I've read. Been looking into it for a while.
All cleared
Thanks. Yeah I'll be likely taking 12.5mg of aromasin daily on this. Thankfully I don't have to worry about recovery! (On TRT)
You should be more than set then. I was able to get away with .8mg Adex Ed with up to 50mg trest ed
That's what I'll be doing daily, with about 300mg 1-T weekly. Hoping it'll be fine on the joints but I don't see why not. Sometimes the pumps hurt my shoulders though if they're a bit extreme...
If your run is anything like mine it'll be pure love ha.
What you run your test at?
test? i didn't run any test... trest does the same things
mild bloating (not really much of an issue during a bulk tho), but the biggest one was the nip sensitivity/puffiness... there were days were I got pretty nervous and upped my dose a bit more. In the end, I never actually developed gyno or anything but it was certainly much bigger of an issue than anything else I've ever run. for reference, I ran test prop at 150mg eod with no ai at all.
Do you think 300mg is low even if taking alongside 350mg/week of trest? I could bump it up, I just though it was much stronger than EQ so taking it as an adjunct to Trest at only 300mg/week would be ok. Trest would be the base and 1-T the adjunct in this case.
sounds like dbol, I get puffy nips on dbol
It's low regardless of what compound you're using. Think of it this way: back in the day when it was OTC, the standard transdermal dosages were between 200-400mg/day. Assuming 20% absorption, that's roughly 280mg of active per week vs the 200 you have now and that was a very low dose of the product. It is much stronger than EQ, but, IME, EQ is best run near a gram per week.
1T is not something I'd run solo unless you want to be ultra lethargic and possibly a dead libido.
By solo, I always mean with at least a TRT dose of test. I'm on TRT so I'm always running at least 120mg /week of test year round. Running anything without at least tiny bit of test base doesn't make any sense.
Even with test ranging from 450-600mg/week of 1TC, I experienced some lethargy and lowered libido. I personally don't get what all of the trest hype is about considering the price and how much upkeep it requires. I'd much rather run a low to moderate dose of tren enanthate and let that shuttle nutrients.
I was the same way as you with regards to tren as deca kicked my ass so badly, but I changed my opinion once I tried NPP. I took years to "graduate" to tren and I am very happy I took my time to use it. I like 1T a whole lot, but it's not tren. It's a bit more dry and requires less ancillaries, though.
Sup Rodja-What is your opinion of NPP
Love it. I hate pinning that frequently, but it's a great compound. 50mg ED was plenty to see some solid LBM and joint alleviation.
On it now. It's "ok" but not blowing me away. What I do like is zero sides. Only side is EXTREME horniness. Bizarre for a nor19
I continue to hear the same. Many anecdotal experiences citing the improvement once Test was kept to 200-250mg/week; essentially serving as only a base for functionality.
Pharma tren? It's never been approved for human usage. There's vet grade tren, but not HG to my knowledge.
I've heard this as well.
For physique purposes, I've done something similar with test and tren roughly the same. Test was technically higher due to ester weight, but the sides were definitely minimal. Even when flipping it and running it 900mg and 600mg (enanthate this time), respectively, the sides weren't terrible until week 8.
Sorry should have clarified my pharma reference. Not HG but passing the same purity tests as HG. Pretty much extremely high purity grade Tren in the 95%+ purity. It's something serious.
lol: at words not the stinging) during urination and ejaculation (the latter was the more sever of the 2), and I even had WBCs in my urine sediment (I work as a lab tech for those that don't know). So learn from my mistake and at least plan on maybe needing prostate support if using it. 2nd complaint: I have no idea of knowing if it was the particular gear I was using or if this is a property inherent to 1T-Cyp itself, but...once injected (sorta speculation because I couldn't literally see inside my muscle lol) the 1T-Cyp itself would come out of solution and maybe crystalize(??) inside the muscle. This may sound like bs, especially if you don't know me, but it was like clockwork...gear was crystal clear, pinning was silky smooth, but starting in a few hours and lasting days the muscle and surrounding tissue would SWELL and HURT. I'd describe the pain as not being "injury-like" but more like imagining doing 50 drop sets of iso work on that muscle...along with being tender to the touch. Swelling and tenderness was both in the muscle and surrounding tissue. It may very well have been the gear, but at the time I used it it was legal and the same guy that brewed that brewed plenty of other "legal sterile oils" at much higher concentrations and there was absolutely no issue with any of the others. Nowadays I would discontinue using it, but hey I was young and obsessed with my body. I'm sure I may get flamed but I'm just mentioning it so you guys can keep an eye out. The only thing that really seemed to help at all was injecting the muscle that I was gonna work that day, and the closer to gym time the better. And then making sure my workout was brutal with extra concentric iso work (ie. If I injected a pec it'd be on chest day right before I hit the gym, and I'd make sure to do a ton of cable crosses to end my workout...complete with triple drop sets, holding concentric and squeezing/flexing the $hit outta my pecs and holding that for a few sec. on each rep.) Extensive stretching at the very end too. The more blood flow to the pinned muscle the merrier.
There's some great threads about trestolone acetate on this board as well. Definitely worth looking into, as its stronger than tren but WAY less sides. 10x more anabolic than test, and can be used as a test replacement/base as well, but I wouldn't use something so strong as a base, maybe at a tiny dose but then I'd just use test. Trest aromatizes something fierce, metabolizes into a form of methyl-estrogen. Requires daily AI usage, but so worth it! Btw, I wouldn't touch the decanoate ester of Trest. This stuff shuts you down harder than anything else and that ester will linger far too long for any sort of smooth recovery. Acetate is the way.
Love the stuff except it jacks up my hr from 60-70 bpm to 90-100 bpm and my bp from 120-130/70-80 to 150-160/90-100. I couldn't get it under control either. Wish I could bc it is good stuff.
I'm trying it out alongside inj carnitine and my cardio/bp etc has been fine! Was a trick someone else told me to try on here. Injectable carnitine gives an incredible boost to cardio (and fat loss)
Really? Use a pep site for this I'm guessing?
No, pep sites don't carry it. It's a custom made amino solution. Check out datbtru's forum for more info!
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