Is tren as good as it gets?
- 08-10-2014, 10:25 PM
- 08-10-2014, 10:51 PM
08-11-2014, 11:29 AM
08-11-2014, 11:45 AM
08-11-2014, 12:03 PM
EQ will do nothing for your joints at all. While it increases collagen synthesis (and so do many other steroids- even winstrol) it does nothing to increase cross-link connectivity- so it does nothing. Broscience.
One of the few steroids that will provide joint relied is deca, and that is likely due to its androgen and progestin activities. The aromatization to estrogen combined with the intrinsic anti inflammatory effects of progesterone.
08-11-2014, 12:06 PM
08-11-2014, 12:14 PM
Interesting how many people incorporate EQ solely for the purpose of aiding joints, but have been misled to believe it's helping.
I guess BPC-157 is actually the best thing available for joints/tendons/cartilage atm then, as well as HGH.
08-11-2014, 12:31 PM
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08-11-2014, 07:26 PM
08-11-2014, 08:44 PM
There's another problem as well though. I've read some post surgery logs where people were using steroids & GH / peptides for tendon/cartilage repair, and ended up with excessive scar tissue, like extreme amounts of it where the person's doctor came right out and said get off whatever you're taking.
08-11-2014, 09:08 PM
Don't agree with this. I ripped my right tricep off the bone this past March and had to have surgery to re-attach it. The first surgeon said he wouldn't operate if I remained on AAS. I went to another, a much better surgeon who made no such demands. I used HGH and TRT doses of test, along with 150mgs of Anavar daily for the duration of the healing. The surgeon, not knowing I was on anything, said I had healed at a remarkable rate and that my bone density and muscles were remarkable. Although he said not to lift with my right arm while healing, I did do light curls with my right arm and full weighted curls with my left. Now, 5 months later, I am back to normal, lifting with no pain or discomfort. The year before I had broken my leg. Want to hear about what tren does?
08-11-2014, 10:09 PM
GHRP and MGF heal tendons/cartilage, not reduce inflammation.
U know, we don't just pull crap outta our butts just to look like we're knowledgeable...
There is enough evidence to support that GH and androgens play a role in healing purposes. Many of these androgens have a strong correlation to increased GH and IGF, which inevitably leads to MGF and growth/repair.
08-11-2014, 10:22 PM
08-11-2014, 10:41 PM
I've used deca. But post surgery, I stuck with high doses of TB-500 and CJC w/ DAC + GHRP (Ipamorelin) and got my full range of motion back within a month and was lifting again in 3 months. I have it logged in the Exercise Science forum. I think my previous post was misunderstood.
08-11-2014, 10:45 PM
08-11-2014, 10:52 PM
Yes deca will not in any way accelerate healing. If I implied that it was not my intention. It will simply relieve syptomolgy, not cure.
08-11-2014, 11:01 PM
I'm on my phone right now so it's tough to type, but there was a log I was following where the subject was using GH, EQ, var and some other things post surgery, and he was complaining of a lot of pain during PT. He had more scans done and they discovered his body was over-producing scar tissue and his Dr asked him to stop taking anything. Perhaps he was taking too much, or it was unrelated, or that could've been isolated to himself, but it made me wonder at the time.
I personally had a great time with TB-500 + Ipamorelin post surgery and used low dose EQ for over a year though and that all worked well.. but I guess the EQ wasn't doing exactly what I thought it should be, well at least not everything. I'm still disappointed in that because it agrees very well with me, no sides to really speak of.
08-11-2014, 11:06 PM
08-12-2014, 12:12 AM
BPC 157 has been shown in rat studies to:
-heal torn quadriceps muscles, detached achilles tendon, muscles that have been damaged/crushed
- dramatically fast recovery from muscle tears
- tendon to bone healing
- increased ligament healing
- has a variety of protective effects in the organs
- human trials demonstrate healing and prevention of stomach ulcers
- no adverse reactions have been seen in human trials.
08-12-2014, 07:19 AM
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09-05-2014, 01:04 PM
09-05-2014, 01:16 PM
^^^Right. You arent running it alone, There should be a test base. All sides management starts with proper estrogen management so using an ai to keep e2 in clinical range even when on cycle is one of the most prudent things you can do man.
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