Test:Tren mg ratio
- 04-19-2014, 08:55 PM
- 04-19-2014, 09:16 PM
I did 500mg Test and 300mg Tren with good results for about 7 weeks.Lift heavy and eat lots of dead animals! Yes, that's me in my avatar.
- 04-19-2014, 09:31 PM
Im on my secound tren cycle. The ratios seem to have there benefits either way, for a recomp or cut I'd suggest keeping the tren higher then the test. So 400 mg of test with a 150 mg of test works like a charm. For a balls to the wall bulk, 400 tren with 500 to 800mg of test plus bulk orals and prepare to blow the **** up. Make sure you have a solid Ai, I'd suggest adex, and proviron.
04-19-2014, 10:45 PM
I'm definitely going for recomp. Ideally, I'd like to gain about 5-7 pounds and lose 3-4% bodyfat in about 10 weeks. But any type of recomp would make me happy.
04-22-2014, 05:09 PM
Since tren binds to the androgen receptor 5 times more than test does you should keep the test low. I'd say 500mg tren to 150mg test. Let the tren do the work and the test just high enough to do man things like have sex lol.
04-22-2014, 06:00 PM
After the fact 225mgs was probably a better dose with about 450mgs Test.
Lift heavy and eat lots of dead animals! Yes, that's me in my avatar.
04-22-2014, 06:07 PM
04-22-2014, 06:10 PM
04-23-2014, 12:37 AM
04-23-2014, 12:49 AM
05-12-2014, 06:09 PM
if you can handle sides, high test and high tren is best for an all out bulk. tren will stilll keep you hard though. but if yo just want a recomp effect with low sides, high tren and low test is best.
personally, running all different ways myself, and being a crazy responder to tren in general, i like doing high tren and test because i look better in the end. i use low dose aromasin and 50mg of prov everyday and im a beast. i only use prami when needed.
everyones body reacts differently to diff doses but for an experienced user like myself, both high tren and test is where its at. i gotta say though, keep E levels in an acceptable range and keep in eye on prolactin levels or the sides will become too much for most.
05-13-2014, 12:25 PM
05-14-2014, 07:24 AM
05-14-2014, 10:20 AM
05-15-2014, 07:27 AM
05-19-2014, 05:36 PM
05-21-2014, 11:08 AM
Are these long esters, or short, like ace an prop?
If running ace n prop, would 50/50 e/d be bad, or would 50tren, 25 test be better?
05-21-2014, 11:15 AM
350mg Tren is plenty to get exactly what u want from a cycle. If u needed more fat burning/mass building u could load up on IM Carnitine and Ipamorelin to increase fat loss, or something like Albuterol or even Masteron would accentuate the Tren.
I just advise others to stay away from really high doses - it just isnt necessary to get the gains.
05-21-2014, 11:24 AM
05-21-2014, 11:48 AM
I find that most that have prolactin-estrogen related gyno from Tren use is from:
Tren suppressing T3 -> Higher prolactin
High Test dose -> Higher estrogen levels
Tren wins AR against T -> Test converts at higher rate to estrogen.
= bad environment for libido and nipples
If u havent tried Albuterol I'd say give it a run. Much much milder than Clen and is good for the cholesterol profile. Start @ 3mg × 3 daily and go up from there. But as far as fat burning goes, u dont need anything but Tren to do it. Anything else is just excessive use of the needle. Do fasted training and drink Leucine regularly to get shredded. That simple.
05-21-2014, 12:12 PM
05-22-2014, 07:30 PM
05-23-2014, 04:20 AM
So I'm actually running 300mg tren 600mg test right now with mast and eq, this being the first time with mast. Previous attempts have had more sides, this seems fairly tolerable to me - would lowering test mean even less "tren" sides. It seems like the mast makes the tren sides more tolerable, this is almost a breeze in comparison... Would say 350-400mg tren(maybe even 500?) with 125-250mg test yield substantially better gains with even less sides? I mean with its 5x better binding affinity, and test just floating around causing non AR mediated effects it seems like you'd have a better time substituting with a compound that has no binding affinity.
05-23-2014, 10:50 AM
Plus the fact that its DHT, which does well to fight emotional sides and gives good libido. In fact, Tren and Mast alone arent a bad option. EQ is fairly neutral on sides, other than thick blood, shortness of breath and possible anxiety issues, I think the T and Mast combat the anxiety though.
Thats alot of androgens man. Be careful. Listen to ur body.
If cutting up and gettin ready for a show or photoshoot, u'd want to reduce aromatizing compounds to TRT levels and increase hardening agents a bit. Perhaps a .25-1 -1 -.75 ratio of Test, EQ, Mast & Tren.
Hard as a rock, lol.
05-23-2014, 11:07 AM
05-24-2014, 12:27 PM
05-24-2014, 12:29 PM
Ran my (inject ) first cycle last year of test e and mast p + trenadione/epi
Tren an Epi gave my gyno, so began researching how to run tren ace instead and never Epi again
05-24-2014, 12:39 PM
05-24-2014, 12:42 PM
05-24-2014, 12:50 PM
I found it much better than orals.
Running dimethandrostenol now from Olympus labs.
Feel it's similar to Epi. Leaning me out nicely while keeping weight at 183-180
05-24-2014, 04:12 PM
I run EQ as my base because I don't notice any negative sides from it, and it gives me an increase in hunger and endurance - all my friends say they feel like they can run longer and harder on it as well.
I'm bulking right now, but ya this is definitely the most gear I've ever ran:
So ya, a lot of androgens. Honestly I feel great, I donate blood, my support supplementation is pretty comprehensive and intense, and my cholesterol and blood pressure is good - prolly cause I haven't been running a lot of orals and I hop on hawthorne berry at the first sign of hbp(shortness of breath walking up stairs).
I like the protocol you gave me, but the next step for me is just to lower the test to see the difference.
05-24-2014, 04:18 PM
05-24-2014, 06:44 PM
05-25-2014, 03:48 PM
05-25-2014, 08:20 PM
With the test:tren ratios are most of us saying 1:2 or 1:3 is about where you want to be? I mean really if you want to be bulking with tren it sounds like you'll have less sides running dbol instead of increasing your test dose cause you're looking for non AR mediated effects anyways... And the ratio of tren:mast would be between 1:1 and 1:2?
05-29-2014, 12:37 AM
like what's been mentioned before I think high T and low tren is better for a bulk, while low T and higher tren is better for a cut.
My buddy who competes is running
ED: tren ace 50/mast ace 50
E3D: test c 50mgs / mast en 50
05-29-2014, 01:31 AM
05-29-2014, 10:06 AM
05-29-2014, 05:17 PM
from what I hear, so far so good, this is pre contest, so it's rough either way being on a caloric deficit and sub 6% bf and dropping.
I would definitely be cautious of Tren E at higher dosages, better to start slow and build up, I think front loading is not a wise decision.
05-29-2014, 06:34 PM
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