Test:Tren mg ratio
- 05-24-2014, 12:27 PM
- 05-24-2014, 12:29 PM
Ran my (inject ) first cycle last year of test e and mast p + trenadione/epi
Tren an Epi gave my gyno, so began researching how to run tren ace instead and never Epi again
05-24-2014, 12:39 PM
05-24-2014, 12:42 PM
05-24-2014, 12:50 PM
I found it much better than orals.
Running dimethandrostenol now from Olympus labs.
Feel it's similar to Epi. Leaning me out nicely while keeping weight at 183-180
05-24-2014, 04:12 PM
I run EQ as my base because I don't notice any negative sides from it, and it gives me an increase in hunger and endurance - all my friends say they feel like they can run longer and harder on it as well.
I'm bulking right now, but ya this is definitely the most gear I've ever ran:
So ya, a lot of androgens. Honestly I feel great, I donate blood, my support supplementation is pretty comprehensive and intense, and my cholesterol and blood pressure is good - prolly cause I haven't been running a lot of orals and I hop on hawthorne berry at the first sign of hbp(shortness of breath walking up stairs).
I like the protocol you gave me, but the next step for me is just to lower the test to see the difference.
05-24-2014, 04:18 PM
05-24-2014, 06:44 PM
05-25-2014, 03:48 PM
05-25-2014, 08:20 PM
With the test:tren ratios are most of us saying 1:2 or 1:3 is about where you want to be? I mean really if you want to be bulking with tren it sounds like you'll have less sides running dbol instead of increasing your test dose cause you're looking for non AR mediated effects anyways... And the ratio of tren:mast would be between 1:1 and 1:2?
05-29-2014, 12:37 AM
like what's been mentioned before I think high T and low tren is better for a bulk, while low T and higher tren is better for a cut.
My buddy who competes is running
ED: tren ace 50/mast ace 50
E3D: test c 50mgs / mast en 50
05-29-2014, 01:31 AM
05-29-2014, 10:06 AM
05-29-2014, 05:17 PM
from what I hear, so far so good, this is pre contest, so it's rough either way being on a caloric deficit and sub 6% bf and dropping.
I would definitely be cautious of Tren E at higher dosages, better to start slow and build up, I think front loading is not a wise decision.
05-29-2014, 06:34 PM
05-30-2014, 02:19 AM
Uh oh I always frontload :x
Edit: only with doses I've already experienced, and starting with a short ester is nice too - being able to drop something new cause of an adverse reaction is always nice...
05-30-2014, 01:21 PM
Edit: Deleted as didn't want to hijack - been a while since I last came on, reminded myself of pet hates!!
05-30-2014, 11:15 PM
Seriously though thanks for the good warning on the tren dosage, especially with a long ester. I've only ran 300mg before, and pointing out that there's a big difference between 300 and 400mg, and to work up slowly is awesome advice. I already know the sides at 300 are intense, it took three runs at this dose before I was comfortable. I was thinking with me dropping most of the test I could just bump up the tren so thanks for the heads up.
05-31-2014, 12:00 AM
06-02-2014, 11:17 PM
Still allow you to bulk pretty good? Without raising the test how could you make this better for bulking? Adding something like dbol, slin, or increase how much tren/mast you're taking? Is there much of a difference between 125 and 250mg test in this kind of stack, or is it just personal preference based on how you feel?
Finally I've been having trouble getting anyone to comment on this, and it's a bit off topic, but with vars low binding affinity and AR upregulation would it be a good thing to stack with 300mg of tren to increase effectiveness without increasing sides? Like would you have better results with 300mg/week of tren and 80mg var/day then lets say 600mg/week of tren with less sides? I haven't been able to find a log or any feedback...
06-02-2014, 11:20 PM
I actually did the Var at 60mg with 300mg Tren precontest. It worked well. But I cant comment on how it compares to 600mg Tren.
600mg Tren probably better results but I can imagine sides suck.
Var has high myotropic activity meaning it builds muscle mass pretty good, despite the low binding affinity.
06-03-2014, 03:03 PM
08-04-2014, 08:15 AM
What duration would you recommend TREN and TEST along with MAST to be run at?
Is MAST even a must?
and does this look alright for a 1st time tren user? (not my first aas cycle though)
first 10 days - frontload test p at 100eod making that 500mgs in total.
ACTUAL CYCLE AFTER FRONT LOAD
test c 250mg w1-9
tren ace 300mg w3-10
drop test c at week end of week 9, and pick up prop p for the last week at 250mgs for that week (50mg eod) so that it would give time for test c to exit my system so taht i can start my PCT sooner than later...
Caber starting exactly when i start tren at .5mg week3-5 than 1mg w5-10
Proviron at 50mg EOD or ED (what you guys think) from w3-10
Natty test boosters (ZMA etc)
08-04-2014, 08:42 PM
08-04-2014, 08:54 PM
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