new idea on cycles

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    Good on the GI stuff. Try dosing 2.5 hours or 2 to see if swings go away. You could be missing the "window" so to speak


    Ahhhh got it. Thanks broham


  2. For what it's worth DD when I cycle it's usually very well planned out on a calendar like yours. I'm a bit OCD when it comes to things like that, how much it helps.... ****ed if I know. Lol
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  3. How many days between pins would you recommend for Test - E?
    I don't go lift, I don't go workout, I don't go train....I go get sexy....sexy as fwuark!!!!!!!!!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by xigotmailx View Post
    How many days between pins would you recommend for Test - E?
    For my body I like e5d. That's for my ugl brand and based on my blood work.
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  5. Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    For my body I like e5d. That's for my ugl brand and based on my blood work.
    So then it would be dependent upon person and where they are getting it from? Would you think E4D would be more beneficial than 3 then 4?
    I don't go lift, I don't go workout, I don't go train....I go get sexy....sexy as fwuark!!!!!!!!!
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by xigotmailx View Post

    So then it would be dependent upon person and where they are getting it from? Would you think E4D would be more beneficial than 3 then 4?
    Yes. 4 is the shortest I would pin test e under normal circumstances. The manufacturer plays a very small role. I only use one lab just because I'm hard headed. My body does best with e5d because of my metabolism and how fast my body breaks down the depot. That's the big thing. Most of my buddies like it e4-6d.
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  7. Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    So I was talking about cycle lengths with a friend and how I'm running my cycles now. If anyone follows my cycles I stopped running them with a "this dose every week" mindset.

    Instead I pick a start date and an end date. I pick my doses and my dosing schedule. Wether its e2d, e3d or once a week... whatever. I write down injection days on a calender from my start date to end date.

    This allows me to control my blood levels to the T. In a normal cycle here in the forums guys pick a 2x a week schedule. There are 2 flaws with this.
    1. There are 7 days in a week so you have a 3day gap and a 4day gap. How can you maintain a steady level?
    2. We all know what ester lengths "should" be. But my bloodwork shows different. I find to keep my test levels even keel on test E I need to dose every 5 days roughly. A 2x a week schedule gives me saw-blade looking hormone dips.

    Could these side effects people have be caused by hormone inbalances rather than the actual compounds?

    This all came up because its how I run cycles now and also how competitive bodybuilders run cycles to time off and on periods for shows and such. If its good enough for them and me (and works best imo) why aren't the rest using the same plan?

    Lets discuss....
    With my right arm all messed up and working at the gun shop 12 hours a day, I don't get a chance to post here much, but I do read when I can... In regards to 7 days and the uneven math, it really doesn't make much difference. If someone is on a long ester, then over a couple of weeks it starts to balance out and injecting Monday and Thursday is not going to matter. As you know, I hate long esters, but see a place for them. I tend to agree with your logic but address it differently. If I'm on test/tren (my favorite blend) then I like to inject test e 100mgs and Tren e 200mgs on Sunday, then inject Tren Hex every other day regardless of the day. If it happens to fall on Sunday, then I inject the Hex along with the Enanthate. I only use the long esters as support but do not rely on them. If I am just using test, then I inject 200mgs of test e on Sunday and 100mgs of suspension everyday, 7 days a week. Sometimes I'll add another 200mgs of test e on wed, but rely on the suspension, not the enanthate, for results and leveling of serum balance.

  8. Personally I didn't like suspension, I prefer test prop to suspension

  9. Anyone have an opinion about cruising on sust vs e/c?
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  10. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    Anyone have an opinion about cruising on sust vs e/c?
    I just cruised on sust between my cycles. Been on sust for 16ish weeks now. Its alright nothing crazy just more injections
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  11. Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    I just cruised on sust between my cycles. Been on sust for 16ish weeks now. Its alright nothing crazy just more injections
    That's the confusing thing to me, I've heard you inject sust eod, 2x week, 1x week, nobody seems to have solid idea of how often to use it. It was originally designed to inject once a week for HRT though.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  12. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post

    That's the confusing thing to me, I've heard you inject sust eod, 2x week, 1x week, nobody seems to have solid idea of how often to use it. It was originally designed to inject once a week for HRT though.
    I do e3d and according to my bloods that's on point for MY body. Its hard to say without bloodwork. I would be using test P for cut or Test E for bulking but I got Sooooo much sust so fukin cheap I am gunna use it
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  13. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    Anyone have an opinion about cruising on sust vs e/c?
    I'm really not a fan of sust. Run it once, pinned it eod and it was really hit and miss some days were epic, strong, angry, alpha etc etc and then the next nothing at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    That's the confusing thing to me, I've heard you inject sust eod, 2x week, 1x week, nobody seems to have solid idea of how often to use it. It was originally designed to inject once a week for HRT though.
    Yeah the opinions vary quite a bit on the proper use of sust I would have to say pin eod due to the prop ester in it maybe e3d at the very outside.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    I'm really not a fan of sust. Run it once, pinned it eod and it was really hit and miss some days were epic, strong, angry, alpha etc etc and then the next nothing at all.

    Yeah the opinions vary quite a bit on the proper use of sust I would have to say pin eod due to the prop ester in it maybe e3d at the very outside.
    I found that "hit and miss" feeling went away at a high dose past 400-500mg per inject roughly 1g a week. Obvious why imo lol.

    I don't experience bloat on a gram like I would on Test E but the same positive effects are there. Its personal preference I think. My coach likes it and I had so damn much it made sense to use it instead of buying another.

    Edit* I do enjoy the fact that ramping doses is very easy with sust and effects are pretty evident in a day or so. Just on observation for my body.
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  15. Yeah Dave that's why sust is so tempting to me, it's easy to find sust 350 really cheap.

    Not sure about it still though, I feel more comfortable with E which I've used, but I did have a lot of bloat on it. I've been in PCT about a month and I dropped 10lbs that I can tell just from the mirror was all bloat, I still look just as big my waist just shrunk down like 1.5 inches.

    I'll probably end up trying it just to see how it goes, we'll see gonna be off cycle for awhile for now.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  16. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    Yeah Dave that's why sust is so tempting to me, it's easy to find sust 350 really cheap.

    Not sure about it still though, I feel more comfortable with E which I've used, but I did have a lot of bloat on it. I've been in PCT about a month and I dropped 10lbs that I can tell just from the mirror was all bloat, I still look just as big my waist just shrunk down like 1.5 inches.

    I'll probably end up trying it just to see how it goes, we'll see gonna be off cycle for awhile for now.
    Stack Sust and E? It could work. I have though about it just cause I have Test E lying around. Might test it in the future and get bloods to just see what's up.
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  17. Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    Stack Sust and E? It could work. I have though about it just cause I have Test E lying around. Might test it in the future and get bloods to just see what's up.
    Hmmm that's not a bad idea. I could do something like cruise on E and blast with sust. That sounds good to me.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  18. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post

    Hmmm that's not a bad idea. I could do something like cruise on E and blast with sust. That sounds good to me.
    Yep. I would keep test e right around 200mg e5d (my sweet spot) and sust 250-350mg e3d during blast. At end if week 3 bump dose .5cc and end if week 6 again then run that till week 10 and then back to cruise
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  19. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    That's the confusing thing to me, I've heard you inject sust eod, 2x week, 1x week, nobody seems to have solid idea of how often to use it. It was originally designed to inject once a week for HRT though.
    It was originally designed to be used once a month with a crazy theory about ester release and half lives. It was never meant to be used for performance enhancements. It is the absolute worst blend to put in your body unless you have nothing else to use. If you insist on using it, then inject based on the shortest ester.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    Yep. I would keep test e right around 200mg e5d (my sweet spot) and sust 250-350mg e3d during blast. At end if week 3 bump dose .5cc and end if week 6 again then run that till week 10 and then back to cruise
    What do you use to control estro at that high of doses? And what do you dose it at? If my math is right thats around 1.2-1.5g test ew after week 6 depending on whether you do 250 or 350 on the sust.

    And DH what you said makes sense, I hear such mixed reviews on it is all. Some say it's awesome and they love it, others say it sucks don't touch it.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  21. Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post

    It was originally designed to be used once a month with a crazy theory about ester release and half lives. It was never meant to be used for performance enhancements. It is the absolute worst blend to put in your body unless you have nothing else to use. If you insist on using it, then inject based on the shortest ester.
    Yeah that ester theory us bullsh*t. I injected based on the short ester and then after bloodwork timed my doses out at about the 72hr mark. I just had so much it was a waste to spend a couple hundred on new test. I'm using this up and then will use test E and prop for the foreseeable future.
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice

  22. It's just a personal preference. I prefer test cyp to test e. But I run nebido, and it's my favorite of all. It's my base most of the year. The caster oil makes the high doses so much smoother
    Christopher
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/239904-csa2179s-hulk-mirror.html#post4289751

  23. Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    It's just a personal preference. I prefer test cyp to test e. But I run nebido, and it's my favorite of all. It's my base most of the year. The caster oil makes the high doses so much smoother
    How are you dosing the Nebido on blast?

  24. i dont include it when i talk about my cycle. that would just confuse people. i use 1cc which is 500mg every 2 weeks. the ester takes up so much wieght that its only like 300mg of test. so im blasting on top of that with 1g of teste/testc per week plus 1.2g of eq. but i always dose my nebido the same. i would recommend everyone who plans on being on full time to get some. its a life saver, it gives me a very stable base line
    Christopher
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/239904-csa2179s-hulk-mirror.html#post4289751
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