30 wks testosterone Prop!

[Logman]

Also 1000iu HCG once a week starting 4 weeks in.

[Viking23]

You can def get away with that cycle. You should use hcg on cycle (starting week 4) like stated earlier and you should run Nolva /comid together for pct. Plus ai on cycle.

You should bump the dose or toss something else in around week 10-12 because after being on that long the gains start really slow down and the body just maintains. So weeks 12-20 bump to 400 or toss in another compound or oral. If you want to bulk then throw in dbol/ M1T/ superdrol/ abombs. If a cut run var/ tbol/ winni .

I personally would run tbol or var for 6-8 weeks . I think the milder compounds are the best but I react very well to them . But if you choose all out bulk id go with 6 weeks of dbol .

[Nc5590]

I've been gone for a week...But over this week i have been reading a little and researching blast and cruise methods... Can someone please shed light on this? Does that mean you would NEVER come off test if I blast and cruised?? Or would it mean something like the following:

BLAST
week 1-8 Test prop 350 week
week 1-4 SD

CRUISE
week 8-12 test prop 150-200 per week

BLAST
week 12-20 test prop 350 per week with tren at 350 per week

CRUISE
week 20-24 test prop 150 TRT dose per week

the PCT for 4-6 weeks with nolva/clomid

If doing this, how would I incorporate HCG and where in the cycle??

[Viking23]

Why are you cruising weeks 8-12,??

[Nc5590]

Why are you cruising weeks 8-12,??

I'm not 100% sure haha. That's why I'm seeking advice on blasting & cruising, I've never done it. I had a few guys tell me on a different forum That it's better for your htpa to blast 8 wks cruise 4 wks then blast again for 8. And to take HCG during the cruise along with test. And that by doing this it would help recovery to be easier. Is that not the case? Basically can anyone explain more on how this works and is it better to blast and cruise this way then to run the 20wks I was planning straight through?? What is blast and cruise basically??

[Viking23]

I'm not 100% sure haha. That's why I'm seeking advice on blasting & cruising, I've never done it. I had a few guys tell me on a different forum That it's better for your htpa to blast 8 wks cruise 4 wks then blast again for 8. And to take HCG during the cruise along with test. And that by doing this it would help recovery to be easier. Is that not the case? Basically can anyone explain more on how this works and is it better to blast and cruise this way then to run the 20wks I was planning straight through?? What is blast and cruise basically??

Cruising is usually for people that are on trt. Then they blast after they give their body a break. Since you are trying to recover after cycle cruising isn't needed. So I would just run the same dose for 10 weeks and bump up the dose for the last 10 weeks (weeks 10-20).

[Nc5590]

Cruising is usually for people that are on trt. Then they blast after they give their body a break. Since you are trying to recover after cycle cruising isn't needed. So I would just run the same dose for 10 weeks and bump up the dose for the last 10 weeks (weeks 10-20).

Gotcha, well I was going to add in tren the last half. Is 30 too young to go on hrt? I mean to me that sounds like it would be good. To always have your T levels at the highest end of the scale. Isn't that what every man wants? So why wouldn't everyone just go on trt?

[Nc5590]

I've read where some protocols for blast and cruise people do actually come off eventually and go into pct. Like more for ppl who run longer cycles, I've read that it's optimal to blast for 8 wks or so then cruise for 4-8 wks then blast again, cruise and taper into pct.. Is that not true??

Anyone with blast and cruise experience please chime in.

[Viking23]

Gotcha, well I was going to add in tren the last half. Is 30 too young to go on hrt? I mean to me that sounds like it would be good. To always have your T levels at the highest end of the scale. Isn't that what every man wants? So why wouldn't everyone just go on trt?

Because man not every man wants to have to rely on a drug to get through life . Hypothetically, If **** ever hit the fan in the world now you have something you need to worry about other then the basics. Seems a little crazy but some guy said that to me once and it stuck.

I use to think trt was great and eventually we will all most likely be on trt and some point because we are screwing with our hormones but I just rather not be dependent on something to get through life.

[PumpHouse]

I've read where some protocols for blast and cruise people do actually come off eventually and go into pct. Like more for ppl who run longer cycles, I've read that it's optimal to blast for 8 wks or so then cruise for 4-8 wks then blast again, cruise and taper into pct.. Is that not true??

Anyone with blast and cruise experience please chime in.

HeavyIron I believe writes about cycles like that. To combat the rise in myostatin by either reducing the dose for a period of time, then bringing it back up, or ramping the doses up throughout. I don't know that I would call it blasting and cruising though, that usually refers to trt.

I don't have blast/cruise experience, but that ^ may give you some keywords to do some research on.

Edit* although I don't think I've read him suggest tapering down into PCT.

[Matthersby]

Because man not every man wants to have to rely on a drug to get through life . Hypothetically, If **** ever hit the fan in the world now you have something you need to worry about other then the basics. Seems a little crazy but some guy said that to me once and it stuck.

I use to think trt was great and eventually we will all most likely be on trt and some point because we are screwing with our hormones but I just rather not be dependent on something to get through life.

I've often pondered my house with 4 feet of razored barbed wire and glass. Backyard a huge vegetable garden. Taking baths with rain water and leaving the house on foot armed with a pistol and rifle on a supply run. Cars and houses broken and looted all around me. I come back from my supply run and realize I only have one sterile syringe and a few drops left of expired Test cyp. I've been on TRT for 12 years and now will spend the next year lethargic, impotent, depressed and weak.


I probably watch Walking Dead too much...

[Nc5590]

I've often pondered my house with 4 feet of razored barbed wire and glass. Backyard a huge vegetable garden. Taking baths with rain water and leaving the house on foot armed with a pistol and rifle on a supply run. Cars and houses broken and looted all around me. I come back from my supply run and realize I only have one sterile syringe and a few drops left of expired Test cyp. I've been on TRT for 12 years and now will spend the next year lethargic, impotent, depressed and weak. I probably watch Walking Dead too much...

Hahaha. What.....are.....you.......tal king about?!

[Matthersby]

Hahaha. What.....are.....you.......tal king about?!

. What scares me about trt. An apocalyptic event.

[jack_black]

. What scares me about trt. An apocalyptic event.

exactly. You have to stock pile everything. Hit the Wal mart distribution center as soon as the balloon goes up

[csa2179]

exactly. You have to stock pile everything. Hit the Wal mart distribution center as soon as the balloon goes up

or just buy a couple of kgs of Raw

[Mperkins]

. What scares me about trt. An apocalyptic event.

well see here.. they seem to be able to mow their lawns so i think they got time to worry about their gainz...

[GeekPoop]

I've been gone for a week...But over this week i have been reading a little and researching blast and cruise methods... Can someone please shed light on this? Does that mean you would NEVER come off test if I blast and cruised?? Or would it mean something like the following:

BLAST
week 1-8 Test prop 350 week
week 1-4 SD

CRUISE
week 8-12 test prop 150-200 per week

BLAST
week 12-20 test prop 350 per week with tren at 350 per week

CRUISE
week 20-24 test prop 150 TRT dose per week

the PCT for 4-6 weeks with nolva/clomid

If doing this, how would I incorporate HCG and where in the cycle??

why not just run a long ester cycle for 20/24 weeks?

[Nc5590]

why not just run a long ester cycle for 20/24 weeks?

Read the first few posts. Test prop I have 9 vials of. It was all my source had. I don't mind frequent pins. My question is would it be more beneficial in terms of keeping gains after cycle and recovery to run short cycles or long?? I've never done a long one. I just want some quality suggestions

[Nc5590]

Blood test came back today.

Total test = 583

Free test = 43

The free test seems odd?

Can someone explain these levels?

[csa2179]

free test is unbound test or albumin bound test, which is easily converted to free test. your free test is very high, but if you are taking something to keep it from binding with SHbg that would account for the high level. your total test is in range. what all are you on right now?