What oral can i throw into my tren and test run?
- 01-22-2014, 11:38 AM
- 01-23-2014, 04:27 PM
To the OP's original question... Why not Anavar at ~80mg a day? I could be wrong but isn't Test/Tren/Var supposed to be a fantastic combination? MUCH less sides than things like Super and M1T.. I mean chicks can take it but it still aids greatly with burning fat via its glucocorticoid signaling inhibition and it yields nothing but lean pristine mass.
Maybe I'm overlooking something but it sounds like a great combo if you ask me especially if it is a first cycle.
- 01-23-2014, 04:40 PM
01-23-2014, 05:40 PM
Anavar at 80mg is a great way to get wallet atrophy
If you don't want sides then stick to test+adex. This is enough for the vast majority of gym rats. You don't *really* need anything else
01-23-2014, 06:03 PM
01-23-2014, 06:24 PM
01-23-2014, 06:28 PM
And I agree with you. I'm already on plenty of gear as it is, this would just be icing on the cake. I'm thinking I shouldn't reinvent the wheel with this one and maybe run some dbol or var... Leaning toward var since I'm sort of sensitive to bloating..
01-23-2014, 06:34 PM
01-23-2014, 06:50 PM
I'm not single digits.. But depending on my bloat I can appear to be much higher bf or lower. Maybe I'll post some pictures for you guys to asses.
01-23-2014, 07:00 PM
01-23-2014, 07:12 PM
I also find that I can take in a large amount of sodium with no effect on water retention or blood pressure. Yesterday I ate 2kg of sausages, 24 of them which gave me around 250g of protein, 5000kcal and LOADS of sodium. No water retention though and my blood pressure is pretty much perfect.
01-23-2014, 10:29 PM
01-23-2014, 10:34 PM
01-23-2014, 10:37 PM
Here's some info. I stopped lifting for about 16 months and went from about 185-190 down to 160ish. Lost all my gains and was skinny as faurk... I've been lifting again for about 14 months now..
01-23-2014, 10:43 PM
01-24-2014, 10:25 AM
I don't know how you guys run var at 80 mg I have seen some big dudes like 260 plus only able to run it 50. So either mine is way overdosed or yours are under dosed. I only bring this up because same thing happened to me with tbol. Everyone said run it at 60-80 mg. Well I started at 50 and couldn't do it so I dropped down to 40 where I ran it the rest of the cycle and had great gains until an injury stopped the cycle.
Moral of the story start slow because you don't know how your gears is dosed.
And Alex good advice there brotha! I agree that one should try to limit the drugs they are on. Ai's are great but they are rough on lipids so if you can run a cycle without them your body and gains will thank you.
01-24-2014, 06:46 PM
01-24-2014, 07:09 PM
01-24-2014, 09:26 PM
30 mg of var is all that someone should need. You start pushing 250+ then maybe you can hut the 50-60 range but that's even doubtful. I don't know why it has such a weak rap here.
01-24-2014, 09:35 PM
I might have to jump on the band wagon that of the price is too good to be true...then it is too good to be true lol.
I would really like to hear from a veteran that has ran both winny and car and could really describe the difference.
...that's for another thread though.
My muscles are pharmaceutically enhanced.
01-24-2014, 11:10 PM
01-24-2014, 11:34 PM
01-25-2014, 12:39 AM
The only other thing I was considering was lowering my test dose to 250 or 300 and then using some masterone since that helps with water retention. I don't like taking all this adex...
01-25-2014, 01:45 AM
01-25-2014, 03:11 AM
01-25-2014, 12:59 PM
02-23-2014, 05:56 PM
Just an update if anyone is curious. I decided against any orals for now, but I'm changing things up a bit. For the next 10 weeks I will be using
800mg Tren E
600mg Test Cyp
400mg Masteron E
Maybe I'll work some anavar into the last 6 weeks if I can gather the funds.
Weight is at 212 now. So far I've leaned out while putting on size. Goal would be 220 at the end of next 10 weeks without much if any fat gain.
02-23-2014, 08:32 PM
02-24-2014, 09:20 AM
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