LOW DOSE TEST PROP CYCLE!

[Nc5590]

This will be my 4th cycle. My thoughts this time is to run a long, low dosed test prop cycle. Probably 200 mg a week from March to August, throwing in tren ace starting in May at 50 mg per day and masteron at 50 my per day.

What are your opinions on running the test this long? Would this protocol be ok since dose will be low?

Thoughts & suggestions please!

 

[Nc5590]

Bump for suggestions

 

[AlexPowell]

Why are you running prop when you can run enanthate for half the price

 

[AlexPowell]

I think the masteron, are you competing? if not, maybe run an aromatase inhibitor instead
what are your goals for the cycle? this isn't clear

arimidex or aromasin is poor mans masteron, well middle class mans masteron lol
unless you plan on competing, or serious photo shoot I would not bother with the masteron. It is one of the best steroids no doubt and if the hair stays on it, it was meant to stay forever lol.

I personally, would dose the testosterone at 500mg for a while and not worry about the adex. Then when you have a bit of size, drop test completely and take the tren at whatever dose. 350mg, nice round number why not

When you feel like you're losing size, insert test back in at 200 and some arimidex, you won't need a lot and your bones will let you know if you have taken too much for sure.

This is assuming you're pretty lean, single digits, and after that "recomp" and "hardening" with a bit of size which seems common for the test/tren/mast cycle. But it's an expensive and inefficient way of doing it, in my opinion

 

[Nc5590]

I think the masteron, are you competing? if not, maybe run an aromatase inhibitor instead what are your goals for the cycle? this isn't clear arimidex or aromasin is poor mans masteron, well middle class mans masteron lol unless you plan on competing, or serious photo shoot I would not bother with the masteron. It is one of the best steroids no doubt and if the hair stays on it, it was meant to stay forever lol. I personally, would dose the testosterone at 500mg for a while and not worry about the adex. Then when you have a bit of size, drop test completely and take the tren at whatever dose. 350mg, nice round number why not When you feel like you're losing size, insert test back in at 200 and some arimidex, you won't need a lot and your bones will let you know if you have taken too much for sure. This is assuming you're pretty lean, single digits, and after that "recomp" and "hardening" with a bit of size which seems common for the test/tren/mast cycle. But it's an expensive and inefficient way of doing it, in my opinion

Thanks. I ran test prop/tren/masteron last summer for 10 weeks with great results. It was a blend of all 3 50/50/50. My goals are the same as last summer. To add some mass but mainly get shredded. Money isn't an issue for me. And yes I have a full head of thick hair so I guess I'm good there? Haha. But mainly I was wondering about running test solo for about 2 months before my test/ tren cycle which starts in May. If I did then I would run the test low at 250-300 a week. Again, not concerned with swelling up. Just hardening and adding "some" mass. Can I run everything this long? Basically March through August. But at low dose.

Thoughts??

 

[AlexPowell]

well a gram total isn't a low dose
if you want to get as dry as possible, I'd remove the test or keep it as low as possible. 50mg prop 3x a week. But get the size with testosterone first
the lower the testosterone, the higher you will be able to push the trenbolone and masteron. I'd leave the masteron out as long as possible and also do this cycle longer than 10 weeks taking your time with it

 

[Nc5590]

well a gram total isn't a low dose if you want to get as dry as possible, I'd remove the test or keep it as low as possible. 50mg prop 3x a week. But get the size with testosterone first the lower the testosterone, the higher you will be able to push the trenbolone and masteron. I'd leave the masteron out as long as possible and also do this cycle longer than 10 weeks taking your time with it

I never said I was running a gram. I said 250 mg a week of test for about 2 months then adding in tren for 10 weeks. I guess what I'm asking is how long can I really run tren & test for assuming I run tren at 50mg per day and test at 250 per week?? And are you saying I should run test lower than that if I'm running tren with it?

 

[MuscleBound1337]

I never said I was running a gram. I said 250 mg a week of test for about 2 months then adding in tren for 10 weeks. I guess what I'm asking is how long can I really run tren & test for assuming I run tren at 50mg per day and test at 250 per week?? And are you saying I should run test lower than that if I'm running tren with it?

You're going to be shut down completely regardless of the amount of gear you use. If you're asking if recovery will be easier since the dose is low to start i don't think Its going to make a difference. At a certain amount of exogenous hormones your body will shut down natty production the same as a larger amount.

 

[AlexPowell]

I never said I was running a gram. I said 250 mg a week of test for about 2 months then adding in tren for 10 weeks. I guess what I'm asking is how long can I really run tren & test for assuming I run tren at 50mg per day and test at 250 per week?? And are you saying I should run test lower than that if I'm running tren with it?

250 test + 350 tren + 350 mast = 950g/week, just going by what you were saying in the original post
I would run the test lower personally, maybe even take it out completely. If not, 50mg 3x/week is fine

Having the test at 250, you'll get a bit of aromatisation and conversion to DHT, not a lot but in combo with the tren you'll get a fair amount of androgen related sides compared to lowering the testosterone. Especially if you plan on adding masteron as well, pretty much DHT

How long can you run it for? 8 weeks of tren is plenty. Maybe see what low test, highish tren will do in 8 weeks. After that, bump the test up drop the tren and put in equipoise HIIIGH with some masteron, I think that would be good

 

[Nc5590]

250 test + 350 tren + 350 mast = 950g/week, just going by what you were saying in the original post I would run the test lower personally, maybe even take it out completely. If not, 50mg 3x/week is fine Having the test at 250, you'll get a bit of aromatisation and conversion to DHT, not a lot but in combo with the tren you'll get a fair amount of androgen related sides compared to lowering the testosterone. Especially if you plan on adding masteron as well, pretty much DHT How long can you run it for? 8 weeks of tren is plenty. Maybe see what low test, highish tren will do in 8 weeks. After that, bump the test up drop the tren and put in equipoise HIIIGH with some masteron, I think that would be good

Now I see what you mean about the gram. Gotcha!! Thxnks for the suggestions. So basically running it for 20 weeks won't bs any worse. Ok so here is what I'm planning.

Starting march 1st:
8 weeks test only at 250 wk

May 1st:
Throw in the tren at 50-75 mg ED and lowering test a bit and run that till July or August.

Pct:

Clomid/nolvadex
Hcgenerate
Unleashed/post cycle

How does this look?

 

[AlexPowell]

Now I see what you mean about the gram. Gotcha!! Thxnks for the suggestions. So basically running it for 20 weeks won't bs any worse. Ok so here is what I'm planning.

Starting march 1st:
8 weeks test only at 250 wk

May 1st:
Throw in the tren at 50-75 mg ED and lowering test a bit and run that till July or August.

Pct:

Clomid/nolvadex
Hcgenerate
Unleashed/post cycle

How does this look?

ya looks good
maybe add some winstrol and adex in the test only bit if you're not after too much growth with great condition
will be very similar to using masteron, if the hair stays, well it was meant to stay

 

[Nc5590]

ya looks good maybe add some winstrol and adex in the test only bit if you're not after too much growth with great condition will be very similar to using masteron, if the hair stays, well it was meant to stay

Well my hair stayed my last 4 cycles. Girls are alwAys complimenting my hair haha. So i guess It's meant to stay. The last time I ran oral winstrol I broke out sooooo freaking bad in acne. It was the worst thing to ever happen to me, I'm staying the hell away from that stuff. That's why I was only gonna keep the test low. Should I run test E for the first 8 week test only part? I don't mind pinning every day with prop though

 

[AlexPowell]

Well my hair stayed my last 4 cycles. Girls are alwAys complimenting my hair haha. So i guess It's meant to stay. The last time I ran oral winstrol I broke out sooooo freaking bad in acne. It was the worst thing to ever happen to me, I'm staying the hell away from that stuff. That's why I was only gonna keep the test low. Should I run test E for the first 8 week test only part? I don't mind pinning every day with prop though

ester doesn't really matter
but 8 weeks, you'll want a shorter ester just so your blood levels get up a week earlier and drop faster when you introduce the tren
maybe see if you can get testosterone acetate, that is very good for daily injections. Maybe increase dose to 500mg as well and make sure to use adex. keep total mg roughly the same

 

[Nc5590]

ester doesn't really matter but 8 weeks, you'll want a shorter ester just so your blood levels get up a week earlier and drop faster when you introduce the tren maybe see if you can get testosterone acetate, that is very good for daily injections. Maybe increase dose to 500mg as well and make sure to use adex. keep total mg roughly the same

What do you mean keep total mg roughly the same?

 

[AlexPowell]

mg of drug in system
so you're starting at 250, then bumping it up to 500 when you decrease the test and introduce the tren
well maybe try 500mg of test, then decrease that to 150mg and introduce tren at 350/week and you're at 500 still

The growth from the test + adex would be good as well.
Before, I suggested 250 + orals, making it around 500 still. So there is that option.

I think going from 250 > 500, you'd notice a very big boost, you can easily run 500 the whole time here and grow a bit more initially. 250 is maybe a bit low for just 8 weeks, wouldn't notice much. I am taking just 250 and it's more a tonic effect for training which is what I am after. 250 + dbol + adex would be good also. whatever really

 

[Nc5590]

mg of drug in system so you're starting at 250, then bumping it up to 500 when you decrease the test and introduce the tren well maybe try 500mg of test, then decrease that to 150mg and introduce tren at 350/week and you're at 500 still The growth from the test + adex would be good as well. Before, I suggested 250 + orals, making it around 500 still. So there is that option. I think going from 250 > 500, you'd notice a very big boost, you can easily run 500 the whole time here and grow a bit more initially. 250 is maybe a bit low for just 8 weeks, wouldn't notice much. I am taking just 250 and it's more a tonic effect for training which is what I am after. 250 + dbol + adex would be good also. whatever really

Thank you for the suggestions. I just finished a beastdrol cycle January 1st. Would I be ok to start this by march 1st?

 

[AlexPowell]

Sure

 

[Nc5590]

Sure

Sure, as in you think recovery would be enough?

 

[AlexPowell]

Sure, as in you think recovery would be enough?

There is no way I can accurately gauge this over the internet for a complete stranger
Get some blood tests instead of second-guessing, or just stay on year round with low doses. Your choice.

 

[Nc5590]

I would like more feed back or suggestions on this thread.. Mainly in regards to recovery from such a long cycle. But also what if I did more of a blast and cruise protocol? such as:

BLAST
Weeks 1-8 at 500mg test
Week 1-4 SD (optional)

CRUISE
Weeks 8-12 at 200 mg test or hrt dose with hcg

BLAST
WEEKS 12-20 with the test and tren.

The CRUISE 2 weeks tapering test down.

Then hit PCT.

Would this make recovery easier?

 

[AlexPowell]

no.

 

[Nc5590]

no.

Why not?

 

[AlexPowell]

Because there is nothing that makes recovery any easier than any other 20 week cycle

 

[Nc5590]

Because there is nothing that makes recovery any easier than any other 20 week cycle

So then is it better to just stick with several short and powerful cycles Throughout the year?? Also are shorter cycle better for keepable gains?

 

[AlexPowell]

Cycles are 52 weeks of the year
This is how you get keepable gains

If you come off you'll go back to whatever you can hold naturally

 

[Nc5590]

Cycles are 52 weeks of the year This is how you get keepable gains If you come off you'll go back to whatever you can hold naturally

I've thought about this. But I'm 30. Im a little hesitant to start TRT so early. Are you on all year?