Consequences of year round blast and cruise

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by craigydar View Post
    Hcg could get expensive if not perscribed ... I'm on trt now .. But havnt asked about anything else I should take .. If I'm blasting with tren should I use low dose hgc until I go back to cruise on trt dose ?? Could this be a possibility to help ? NAC, Tocopherols & tocotrienols, and melatonin at night this I need to research
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by craigydar View Post
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    Hcg isnt too expensive IMO. Run 150mcg EOD or 100mcg ED. You want to simulate normal Test pulsation so take in the morning when natural T is highest.

    I mean, 2000iu's is what..$15-20 Maybe? Plus shipping too though but still a 2000iu vial would last u 3-4 weeks.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
    Hcg isnt too expensive IMO. Run 150mcg EOD or 100mcg ED. You want to simulate normal Test pulsation so take in the morning when natural T is highest. I mean, 2000iu's is what..$15-20 Maybe? Plus shipping too though but still a 2000iu vial would last u 3-4 weeks.
    Would you do this whilst on trt cruise and blast or just blasting bro ?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by craigydar View Post
    Would you do this whilst on trt cruise and blast or just blasting bro ?
    Either is fine. Taking while cruising is best though. Keeps the leydig cells stimulated to some degree and helps boatloads when you decide to come off. You can either do as I mentioned or just take 250iu twice weekly or E4D or so.

    That should be enough to keep em stimulated to some degree.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
    Either is fine. Taking while cruising is best though. Keeps the leydig cells stimulated to some degree and helps boatloads when you decide to come off. You can either do as I mentioned or just take 250iu twice weekly or E4D or so. That should be enough to keep em stimulated to some degree.
    If it helps maybe keeping less chance of permenant infertility then I'll add hcg 250iu twice weekly and I'll look into in NAC, Tocopherols & tocotrienols, and melatonin on my cruises

    Is it ok to up doctors perscribed trt dose slightly . Instead of 250mg test e every 2 weeks up it to 250mg weekly ? Or just play it safe
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by craigydar View Post

    If it helps maybe keeping less chance of permenant infertility then I'll add hcg 250iu twice weekly and I'll look into in NAC, Tocopherols & tocotrienols, and melatonin on my cruises

    Is it ok to up doctors perscribed trt dose slightly . Instead of 250mg test e every 2 weeks up it to 250mg weekly ? Or just play it safe
    He needs to give u 100-150mg/wk and given in twice weekly dosing schedule minimum. Once every two weeks is more harm than good.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by fueledpassion View Post
    He needs to give u 100-150mg/wk and given in twice weekly dosing schedule minimum. Once every two weeks is more harm than good.
    As of next week he's letting me self inject so ill do it weekly on my own mate . Is that a good cruise dose Aswel then 250mg so 125mg weekly

  8. A cruise dose that is likely going to keep you out of trouble with RBC, e2, and BP will be in the 120 range, split twice weekly- so 60 e3.5d.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    A cruise dose that is likely going to keep you out of trouble with RBC, e2, and BP will be in the 120 range, split twice weekly- so 60 e3.5d.
    Yea so basically test e 250 he perscribes me every 2 weeks , when I start self injecting it will be 125 weekly .
    I'll do hcg on cruise also but blast with tren and test
    12 on 12trt, 12 on , 12 trt etc if that's ok .
    Do any one else blast and cruise similar? What's your cycles like

  10. Quote Originally Posted by AlexPowell View Post
    The homo that AnabolicMinds deserves
    Fixed

  11. I've never seen test e 250 that was prescribed. My doc only prescribes up to 200mg a week. At 200 I'm in the 1200-1300 range. Now I have been known to cruise at 300mg per week but 150mg is good for maintence with so lean gains.
    Christopher
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/239904-csa2179s-hulk-mirror.html#post4289751

  12. Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    I've never seen test e 250 that was prescribed. My doc only prescribes up to 200mg a week. At 200 I'm in the 1200-1300 range. Now I have been known to cruise at 300mg per week but 150mg is good for maintence with so lean gains.
    It's 250mg ever other week mate giving me at the moment , I've just had another blood test yesterday. This was 2 weeks after my last jab. So he's jabbed me twice altogether
    So 250 jab , 2 weeks later another 250mg jab and 2 weeks after a blood test
    . . I'll wait a week to get results.
    I'm guessing I'll be in normal range
    But I can't wait to start my tren lol

  13. Quote Originally Posted by craigydar View Post

    It's 250mg ever other week mate giving me at the moment , I've just had another blood test yesterday. This was 2 weeks after my last jab. So he's jabbed me twice altogether
    So 250 jab , 2 weeks later another 250mg jab and 2 weeks after a blood test
    . . I'll wait a week to get results.
    I'm guessing I'll be in normal range
    But I can't wait to start my tren lol
    Injections every 2 weeks will give you a front row seat on the hormone rollercoaster. I shoot every 4 days

  14. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    Injections every 2 weeks will give you a front row seat on the hormone rollercoaster. I shoot every 4 days
    Didn't have a choice as doctor prescribed . But I'm pushing for own injections next week so ill do it Monday n Fridays . But I got a funny feeling it's 250mg 1ml amps so not sure how to divide it ?

  15. You just have to do some math once you know. For those of us on test cyp, 1ML equals 200mg. So I take around .3ml e3.5d which would be about 60mg

  16. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    You just have to do some math once you know. For those of us on test cyp, 1ML equals 200mg. So I take around .3ml e3.5d which would be about 60mg
    I
    Get that but If it's 1ml amps then I have to chuck it away once lid snapped off . It's not vials 10ml where u can take what u need mate

  17. Ah, I gotcha. Another option would be to prefill your pins once it is opened.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Ah, I gotcha. Another option would be to prefill your pins once it is opened.
    Good idea,
    Isit wrong that I'm excited about trt? Lol can't wait to blast and cruise sensibly .

  19. Quote Originally Posted by craigydar View Post

    Good idea,
    Isit wrong that I'm excited about trt? Lol can't wait to blast and cruise sensibly .
    I never knew how good good can be until I got on trt. So many years of bad, I began to feel that was normal. I get excited for every injection because I know how good it makes me feel

  20. Quote Originally Posted by threeFs View Post
    I never knew how good good can be until I got on trt. So many years of bad, I began to feel that was normal. I get excited for every injection because I know how good it makes me feel
    Me too. To know that I control how I feel is a great feeling. I do have to say that the only thing that has come close to TRT is adding Preg and DHEA to my protocol. Now I feel unstoppable.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Me too. To know that I control how I feel is a great feeling. I do have to say that the only thing that has come close to TRT is adding Preg and DHEA to my protocol. Now I feel unstoppable.
    Preg dhea? Option google lol

  22. It is becoming the new standard to add in for a lot of doctors- mine included. OnlyChevy mentioned it and how it worked for him and the very next day, my doc brought it up. He wanted me in the top of the range and said even being in mid range is very noticeable. In the matter of a day, it was like a light switch was turned on. Energy through the roof from wake up at 6am until I go to sleep at 10-11, all anxiety gone, and mood elevation like never before. I look at it now like TRT is the foundation and DHEA and preg pulled all the pieces together to complete the house.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post

    Me too. To know that I control how I feel is a great feeling. I do have to say that the only thing that has come close to TRT is adding Preg and DHEA to my protocol. Now I feel unstoppable.
    @ what dosage? I'm still tweaking my protocol. Any help is appreciated...

  24. 60mg test cyp e3.5d
    25mg DHEA sublingual
    50mg Pregnenolone sublingual
    2000IU vit D
    9mg Boron

    I also take ashwagandha, bocapa, and Alpha GPC, but that is just part of my daily and not anything to do with TRT.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    60mg test cyp e3.5d
    25mg DHEA sublingual
    50mg Pregnenolone sublingual
    2000IU vit D
    9mg Boron

    I also take ashwagandha, bocapa, and Alpha GPC, but that is just part of my daily and not anything to do with TRT.
    What brand dude. I'm gettin those asap! Sublinguals sound more legit, lol.

  26. I just picked up one my doctor suggested. The brand is called Superior Source. I found that you need to soften them up under your tongue and then you can bite it and it dissolves.

    Keep in mind that I have no idea if there are better brands out there, but it is working for me no question. I have labs next month, so the numbers will tell.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    I just picked up one my doctor suggested. The brand is called Superior Source. I found that you need to soften them up under your tongue and then you can bite it and it dissolves. Keep in mind that I have no idea if there are better brands out there, but it is working for me no question. I have labs next month, so the numbers will tell.
    Does your doctor prescribe all this ? I'll have to search all this as I've never heard of this protocol.
    I'm new to trt .

  28. He prescribes the test. No need for a prescription for anything else- it is all OTC.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    He prescribes the test. No need for a prescription for anything else- it is all OTC.
    Yeah I hope it helps me. There are so many ways to tackle hormonal imbalances and its all just a guessing game as to which is the culprit.

    But @ 180mg/wk of T, I'm definitely anabolic, lol. Sex drive is not terrific though so I need to address all the peripherals like DHEA and Preg before playing w/ T doses for that vitality and energy.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    He prescribes the test. No need for a prescription for anything else- it is all OTC.
    Ah ok thanks I'll look it all up . So I guess u feel even better with all this on top of the trt dose
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