Consequences of year round blast and cruise
- 12-15-2013, 07:22 PM
- 12-15-2013, 07:29 PM
But I better understand why you feel that 250mgs per week would be a good cruising dose. And as I said, I agree with that unless the man is in his 20s.
- 12-15-2013, 07:33 PM
12-15-2013, 08:34 PM
12-16-2013, 04:53 AM
12-24-2013, 11:00 AM
So still low , but doctors want to perscribe gel only
But I also would like to cycle again and I'm pretty sure my test levels are nearly at the max at only 5.7 10 months after the cycle
Confusing and worrying at same time as I'm 28 . Either the gel or blast n cruise myself or lastly eurologist advice
12-27-2013, 10:18 PM
01-28-2014, 12:37 AM
To keep me fertile for example if is like another kid in say 2 years time will I have to use hcg guys?? During blasts ... Confusing stuff really
01-28-2014, 02:56 PM
Listen to DH, the man knows his ****. I vary the lengths of my blast and I cruise at 250mg which is higher than I'm prescribed. Hcg is really only cosmetic, if u make te choice to be on trt or hrt u should be aware that u probably won't be able to have kids. It does happen but chances are severally reduced. If u end up wanting kids u can try a blast of hcg followed by clomid. I have seen studies where this works. But again it's not a guaranty. The longer u are on trt the more damage u do being **** down. I made the choice at about ur age and feel like it was the right choice. I wanted kids but have come to terms that I probably won't have my own.
01-28-2014, 03:48 PM
01-28-2014, 04:25 PM
01-28-2014, 04:43 PM
Then the question is whether it is worth toying with hormones for a couple years to possibly struggle to have a child down the road. Knowing several people that face this, it is not something to take lightly and just assume that you'll be able to fix it, if it occurs.
01-28-2014, 04:45 PM
01-28-2014, 04:53 PM
yay, AlexPowell saves the day again.
01-28-2014, 04:55 PM
01-28-2014, 10:28 PM
wasnt trying to be depressing, there are ways around it. just have to know that chances are significantly decreased. they were already low thats why im on trt. but i have 2 friends that are on year round and both got there girls pregnant. all though ryan had a black child... and they are both white.
01-28-2014, 10:38 PM
There is alot of science not being mentioned here regarding shutdown and leydig cell damage.
The damage comes through oxidation and shutdown. Science points to the fact that leydig cells do have the ability to stop production and later resume activity however this is highly variable from man to man on exactly what extent.
My suggestion is to run a low dose of hcg EOD to mitigate leydig cell desensitization from said oxidative damage. For good measure, throw in NAC, Tocopherols & tocotrienols, and melatonin at night because all of these reduce leydig cell damage via different ways.
When ready to try for pregnancy, jump on Clomid for 3-4 weeks @ a moderately low dose (<50mg/day). Should work fine. But as with anything, no guarantee.
01-28-2014, 10:38 PM
01-29-2014, 12:11 AM
01-29-2014, 12:21 AM
If I'm blasting with tren should I use low dose hgc until I go back to cruise on trt dose ?? Could this be a possibility to help ?
NAC, Tocopherols & tocotrienols, and melatonin at night this I need to research
01-29-2014, 12:31 AM
01-29-2014, 10:25 AM
01-29-2014, 11:14 AM
01-29-2014, 11:21 AM
That should be enough to keep em stimulated to some degree.
01-29-2014, 11:32 AM
Is it ok to up doctors perscribed trt dose slightly . Instead of 250mg test e every 2 weeks up it to 250mg weekly ? Or just play it safe
01-29-2014, 12:08 PM
01-29-2014, 12:20 PM
01-29-2014, 12:29 PM
A cruise dose that is likely going to keep you out of trouble with RBC, e2, and BP will be in the 120 range, split twice weekly- so 60 e3.5d.
01-29-2014, 12:43 PM
I'll do hcg on cruise also but blast with tren and test
12 on 12trt, 12 on , 12 trt etc if that's ok .
Do any one else blast and cruise similar? What's your cycles like
01-29-2014, 07:32 PM
01-30-2014, 07:21 PM
I've never seen test e 250 that was prescribed. My doc only prescribes up to 200mg a week. At 200 I'm in the 1200-1300 range. Now I have been known to cruise at 300mg per week but 150mg is good for maintence with so lean gains.
01-31-2014, 12:14 AM
So 250 jab , 2 weeks later another 250mg jab and 2 weeks after a blood test
. . I'll wait a week to get results.
I'm guessing I'll be in normal range
But I can't wait to start my tren lol
01-31-2014, 07:19 AM
01-31-2014, 08:44 AM
01-31-2014, 08:51 AM
You just have to do some math once you know. For those of us on test cyp, 1ML equals 200mg. So I take around .3ml e3.5d which would be about 60mg
01-31-2014, 08:54 AM
01-31-2014, 08:57 AM
Ah, I gotcha. Another option would be to prefill your pins once it is opened.
01-31-2014, 09:23 AM
01-31-2014, 10:13 AM
01-31-2014, 10:24 AM
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