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    Old school run


    Guys,

    Wanted your feedback on a cycle of some old school gear.

    Cyp, Deca, Dbol

    HCG, Cabaser, and Anastrazole on hand. PCT will be back to TRT.

    Any feedback on cycle length or dosing would be appreciated.

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    no idea on your exp but I'd go like this
    1-20 cyp 750 / 1g
    1-18 deca 500/750
    1-4/5/6 dbol 50
    I'd probably do another oral or more dbol towards the end too

    hcg 250 iu
    caber .5mg e4d
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    Something like the post above.

    Or if ur more into blast/cruise than 6weeks of high prop w npp while still on trt dose than back off to trt.
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    Thanks GeekPoop, going for a pretty big bulk. I gotta watch the BP on the dbol. So maybe run it 1-4 then 16-20? On the HCG side do you (or anyone else) think that the HCG has any other benefits besides the nut shrinkage? Also, should the caber and anastrozal be run at the same time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GLHF View Post
    Something like the post above.

    Or if ur more into blast/cruise than 6weeks of high prop w npp while still on trt dose than back off to trt.
    Thanks for that. Do you like the NPP more GLHF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRTDetroit View Post
    Thanks GeekPoop, going for a pretty big bulk. I gotta watch the BP on the dbol. So maybe run it 1-4 then 16-20? On the HCG side do you (or anyone else) think that the HCG has any other benefits besides the nut shrinkage? Also, should the caber and anastrozal be run at the same time?
    hawthorne berry lowers BP some, idk how much but just a suggestion!

    makes it a LOT easier to recover / don't loose too much into PCT. I think it's just safer when using any nandrolone compounds to 14+ week cycles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRTDetroit View Post

    Thanks for that. Do you like the NPP more GLHF?
    Npp is just a short ester nandrolone like deca. Less bloat and it can be run high for 4-8 weeks. It clears you system fast unlike deca so recovery is faster plus "decadick" is easier to avoid. GLHF can chime in more I am sure.

    I cruise on TRT dose so blasting for 6-8 weeks is what I do. I use all short ester stuff. Its just easier because you don't have to frontload or wait ester clear times to go back to cruising. I just feel better and bloodwork is usually better. Just my opinion.
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    An example of a blast would be...
    Week 1-8
    250Mg Test E everyweek (cruise)
    75mg Test P ed
    50-75Mg npp ed
    Week 1-4
    Dbol/anadrol 25mg/25mg ed

    3 Weeks before blast start caber at .5mg once a week. It takes about 20 days to peak levels so I start early.

    Use adex, letro or exemestane as needed to control and estrogen.

    7 Days after blast stops pin 500iu hcg 3x a week for 2-3 weeks.

    That's how I would do it. There is lots if options with short esters and orals. Have fun bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    An example of a blast would be... Week 1-8 250Mg Test E everyweek (cruise) 75mg Test P ed 50-75Mg npp ed Week 1-4 Dbol/anadrol 25mg/25mg ed 3 Weeks before blast start caber at .5mg once a week. It takes about 20 days to peak levels so I start early. Use adex, letro or exemestane as needed to control and estrogen. 7 Days after blast stops pin 500iu hcg 3x a week for 2-3 weeks. That's how I would do it. There is lots if options with short esters and orals. Have fun bro!
    That proposed cycle made my penis hard. Love dbol and adrol at the same time! Keeping both doses low like that provides good growth and keeps bp low.

    As far as bp sides- paleo diet. Don't eat sh!t food and grains and stuff. Helps keep off excess water weight which in turn helps keep bp low. Water weight is a killer for bp believe it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRTDetroit View Post
    Damn this is such a great site. Thank you for all the feedback guys.
    No problem bro. Enjoy!
    The advice I give is just that... Advice, purely my opinion. Not medical advice
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    I only used npp once at 75mg Ed
    For 4 weeks. I can't really justify it only on the npp since I was coming out of a cut and added in carbzzz but I was very full looking. I was also taking some test. But I did feel a difference and especially after my cut cycle I was able to continue pounding weights compared to my usual off week follow by Deload.

    Like dd said, blast the **** out of npp than return to cruising. Have an oral at start if u wish so.

    I will be giving the npp another shot but idk when.
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    I endorse Geekpoop's cycle. its a good one!
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    Here's an update.

    I'm running:
    500 cyp 250x twice week (14 weeks)
    Deca250 250x every 3 days (14 weeks)
    Dbol 40mg a day (10mg throughout the day for four weeks)
    Cabaser .5 every three days throughout 14 week run

    my question on the AI is should I just get in front of it and get on a schedule with Anastrozole? Also, on the deca I'd would have liked to run NPP but the deca was already on order. Also some posters have mentioned running another oral at the end. Is Anadrol the preferred choice? Or maybe just some more dbol?

    Thanks guys,
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRTDetroit View Post
    Here's an update.

    I'm running:
    500 cyp 250x twice week (14 weeks)
    Deca250 250x every 3 days (14 weeks)
    Dbol 40mg a day (10mg throughout the day for four weeks)
    Cabaser .5 every three days throughout 14 week run

    my question on the AI is should I just get in front of it and get on a schedule with Anastrozole? Also, on the deca I'd would have liked to run NPP but the deca was already on order. Also some posters have mentioned running another oral at the end. Is Anadrol the preferred choice? Or maybe just some more dbol?

    Thanks guys,
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    Definitely anadrol at the end, 100mg ED.
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    From my understanding you need to run the test a week or preferably two past when you stop deca since the deca takes longer to clear your system
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post
    From my understanding you need to run the test a week or preferably two past when you stop deca since the deca takes longer to clear your system
    You are right but I think TRTdetroit cruises on low dose test (hence the TRT in his name). In which case he will be fine. Nice catch tho because stopping deca and test at the same time and going into pct is a terrible idea haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    You are right but I think TRTdetroit cruises on low dose test (hence the TRT in his name). In which case he will be fine. Nice catch tho because stopping deca and test at the same time and going into pct is a terrible idea haha.
    Completely forgot the TRT part my bad. You should be fine then
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    Quote Originally Posted by CATdiesel76 View Post

    Completely forgot the TRT part my bad. You should be fine then
    Yeah lol I would've said the same thing if I didn't catch the fact he was on TRT. No biggie
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    Thank you for the replys guys. Yes, TRT after. My only question is do you guys think it's worth it to run the HCG during this run? I'm not sure of the upshot and I'm not worried about shrinkage. If anyone has any advice on this it would be greatly appreciated. Also, big thanks for the tip on the anadrol at the end of the run. On a side note it's been almost 20 years since I've run dbol and I gotta say, it's pretty incredible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRTDetroit View Post
    Thank you for the replys guys. Yes, TRT after. My only question is do you guys think it's worth it to run the HCG during this run? I'm not sure of the upshot and I'm not worried about shrinkage. If anyone has any advice on this it would be greatly appreciated. Also, big thanks for the tip on the anadrol at the end of the run. On a side note it's been almost 20 years since I've run dbol and I gotta say, it's pretty incredible.
    U can run hcg if u feel you'll need it. I mean you'll b on TRT forever so I don't see it as a necessity.
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    My TRT doc prescribed the HCG. I guess I'm not sure if it's essential to run with all of the other chemicals in my system now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRTDetroit View Post
    My TRT doc prescribed the HCG. I guess I'm not sure if it's essential to run with all of the other chemicals in my system now.
    I don't see it as necessary really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    I don't see it as necessary really.
    I run it every now and then. I do it because I like to keep the natural production as close to normal as possible. It's not necessary, but when you start to cruise again I'd use it for a while... I just opened up a gun shop and my motto is "Foot pounds mean more than velocity." I think that applies to my attitude on AAS in a way. I'm a proponent of Tren, Anadrol and Test. Just got off 6 months of tren and loved it. Less is more so when I blast, I just use Tren and 100mgs of test. Anyone who's done tren for several months knows what I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post

    I run it every now and then. I do it because I like to keep the natural production as close to normal as possible. It's not necessary, but when you start to cruise again I'd use it for a while... I just opened up a gun shop and my motto is "Foot pounds mean more than velocity." I think that applies to my attitude on AAS in a way. I'm a proponent of Tren, Anadrol and Test. Just got off 6 months of tren and loved it. Less is more so when I blast, I just use Tren and 100mgs of test. Anyone who's done tren for several months knows what I mean.
    I love the way you cycle old guy. You are a role model with your tren use. After my show I'm going back to being a tren junkie
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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerDave View Post
    I love the way you cycle old guy. You are a role model with your tren use. After my show I'm going back to being a tren junkie
    Haha...that's the way us Devil Dogs role!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post

    Haha...that's the way us Devil Dogs role!
    Haha yep hardcore.. its a do or die life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post

    I run it every now and then. I do it because I like to keep the natural production as close to normal as possible. It's not necessary, but when you start to cruise again I'd use it for a while... I just opened up a gun shop and my motto is "Foot pounds mean more than velocity." I think that applies to my attitude on AAS in a way. I'm a proponent of Tren, Anadrol and Test. Just got off 6 months of tren and loved it. Less is more so when I blast, I just use Tren and 100mgs of test. Anyone who's done tren for several months knows what I mean.
    Lol hell yeah I like the way u cycle too. I am on tren right now and will b doing practically exactly what u do. Low dose of test cuz that's all I'll need cuz tren does all the work. I'm staying on for awhile to so I'll use some hcg at some point. The abombs I'm throwing in to but not til a month or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Stri8ed View Post
    Lol hell yeah I like the way u cycle too. I am on tren right now and will b doing practically exactly what u do. Low dose of test cuz that's all I'll need cuz tren does all the work. I'm staying on for awhile to so I'll use some hcg at some point. The abombs I'm throwing in to but not til a month or so.
    Perfect!
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    You guys are great. Thanks for the feedback. I'm gonna PM you DetroitHammer I always support Michigan businesses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRTDetroit View Post
    You guys are great. Thanks for the feedback. I'm gonna PM you DetroitHammer I always support Michigan businesses.
    No problem brah. Get dem gainz!
  

  
 

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