Test E with SD kicker SUPERDARKSIDE TIME!!!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post

    There's no point in running an AI if you are running SD, the SD will dry you out.

    Good luck on your cycle too bro
    Not quite man, SD doesn't aromatise but its doesn't prevent your test from aromatising. It doesn't do anything to the aromatase enzyme like aromatase inhibitors do.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    There's no point in running an AI if you are running SD, the SD will dry you out.

    Good luck on your cycle too bro
    What about those unlucky ones who are prone to Gyno? ?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Not quite man, SD doesn't aromatise but its doesn't prevent your test from aromatising. It doesn't do anything to the aromatase enzyme like aromatase inhibitors do.

    Quote Originally Posted by jiggero View Post
    What about those unlucky ones who are prone to Gyno? ?
    Exactly why I'm running my AI from the beginning, keep estrogen under control. Also, I don't know if I'm gyno prone. This will be my first cycle. I had ran Helladrol (PH) in the past with no AI, I know it doesn't aromatize, but I was fine.

  4. Ah I see about the AIs, had no problems while running SD though.

    Bad news, I got my shoulder checked out by the doctor today and I have a minor tear on my subscapularis(part of the rotator cuff). He said that I shouldn't lift at least until my physical therapy evaluation which is on the 28th, and there is probably a good chance they will recommend not lifting. I do plan on doing some EXTREMELY light weights with my wife, she has a small barbell and dumbbells at home but they don't go very high at all, but I thought it would be good for doing something since I'm not really supposed to be lifting and that will ensure that I don't go heavy at all. Good news was BP was at 133/81 which is pretty decent, over 130 is high normal for systolic but it's not a big deal and happens to people just from stress a lot.

    This leads up to me making a decision about this cycle, I won't be able to put forth 100% and I don't want to waste test. So I have two options that I've been thinking of and I'd like some opinions on them. First option would be to stop the test completely, PCT, and save it all for a later time. Second I was thinking was start cruising at 250 per week to help me keep what gains I've gotten, then when I'm finished with my physical therapy and feel like I'm ready to lift again I can bump it up. I just really hate the idea of possibly losing all or most of the gains I've gotten, though I do think that if I keep my diet clean and at maintenance I should be able to retain a good deal of what I've gained. Not sure how long I'll be doing physical therapy for yet either btw.

    If anyone else has been through a similar situation(especially while on cycle) I would really appreciate any feedback you can give me about how it went for you.

    Also I hate the idea of stopping a cycle partway through and I've never had to before, it sucks pretty bad but the doctor said if I'm not careful it could become a major tear.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  5. I'm sure you want to hear the cruise answer. I would. Probably would help with recovery/therapy too. I'm definitely not qualified to give the answer but PCT shutdown sucks lol

  6. Shoulder stuff is no joke. Praying for a speedy recovery for you bro. Hopefully it doesn't require surgery either.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by mmorton View Post
    Shoulder stuff is no joke. Praying for a speedy recovery for you bro. Hopefully it doesn't require surgery either.
    My doctor was telling me shoulder surgery has a 50/50 chance of working.

  8. Stop the cycle, pct, recover and then start a new cycle when your all healed. I had a partial thickness year of the supraspinatus, didn't heed my doctors advice, kept working out and ended up with shoulder surgery and almost 5 months out of the gym.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Stop the cycle, pct, recover and then start a new cycle when your all healed. I had a partial thickness year of the supraspinatus, didn't heed my doctors advice, kept working out and ended up with shoulder surgery and almost 5 months out of the gym.
    Crap man what happened to you is exactly what I'm trying to avoid, glad you are back at it now though.

    The more I think about it stopping the cycle and healing up is the only option that really makes total sense as far as recovery. Thanks for the advice man, I'll start my PCT in 10 days then. Still a great cycle for only a month wish I could've stayed on long enough to really see how the test alone was but I WILL BE BACK.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  10. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post

    Crap man what happened to you is exactly what I'm trying to avoid, glad you are back at it now though.

    The more I think about it stopping the cycle and healing up is the only option that really makes total sense as far as recovery. Thanks for the advice man, I'll start my PCT in 10 days then. Still a great cycle for only a month wish I could've stayed on long enough to really see how the test alone was but I WILL BE BACK.
    Yeah man it wasn't good at all. Still weaker in that shoulder by a fair bit and nowhere near as flexible.
    You've definitely chosen the right course I mean there's always the next cycle right
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post

    Yeah man it wasn't good at all. Still weaker in that shoulder by a fair bit and nowhere near as flexible.
    You've definitely chosen the right course I mean there's always the next cycle right
    Hey Luke...i saw somewhere that you just started a cycle. Are you logging it anywhere?
    Where it all started

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/35-older/217572-one-can-never.html

  12. Quote Originally Posted by 1ifeblood View Post

    Hey Luke...i saw somewhere that you just started a cycle. Are you logging it anywhere?
    Yeah man the threads up In cycle info under test tren and winny. Cycle starts on Saturday so that's when it should start getting good.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Yeah man the threads up In cycle info under test tren and winny. Cycle starts on Saturday so that's when it should start getting good.
    Looks like my kinda cycle!! going to find and sub

  14. Yep always a next cycle. For now the focus will be cardio and eating healthy, hopefully at least shave off some fat while I'm going through this.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  15. that sux. hope u get better. quick. i messed my hand up , had surgery , was out the gym for over 2months.
    got back into it a week ago. and already starting to feel strong... but its almost like starting all over
    GAME ON! MOVAH FUKAZ!
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/231867-man-sports-gameday.html#post4047619

  16. Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    that sux. hope u get better. quick. i messed my hand up , had surgery , was out the gym for over 2months.
    got back into it a week ago. and already starting to feel strong... but its almost like starting all over
    Yeah I'm a little scared of feeling like that, like I'm starting over. I've been reading that sometimes for minor tears physical therapy can be as short as 6 weeks so I'm hoping for the best. More than time though I'm just hoping my left shoulder will come out of this stronger, so sick of dealing with on and off pain.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  17. Quote Originally Posted by SuperPro View Post
    Yeah I'm a little scared of feeling like that, like I'm starting over. I've been reading that sometimes for minor tears physical therapy can be as short as 6 weeks so I'm hoping for the best. More than time though I'm just hoping my left shoulder will come out of this stronger, so sick of dealing with on and off pain.
    Yea but IMO and experience the shoulder is never quite the same again.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by jiggero View Post
    Yea but IMO and experience the shoulder is never quite the same again.
    My pain has been on and off for about 2 years, sometimes months at a time with no pain at all. I've heard that after surgery it's never the same again, but I'm pretty confident that I can recover from this without problems. However I'd be happy with it as long as it gets better because right now I get pain randomly when I'm not even working out or when I'm trying to sleep and that's what really sucks.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  19. Well I've decided I need to do something as far as working out so I'm going to start doing cardio and whatever calisthenics I can do without hurting my shoulder(so mostly legs and abs) 5 days a week. I'll be eating at maintenance, around 3300 cals, at first and if I don't lean up then I'll adjust but this way I can lean out while I'm off from lifting.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  20. Hope you have a quick recovery man! Injuries fken suck!!!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by xFireBullx View Post
    Hope you have a quick recovery man! Injuries fken suck!!!
    Thanks a lot man. I'm starting to see this as a good thing, give me time to really improve my diet and cardio. Just a minor setback gonna come back from this better than ever!
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  22. PCT begins today. I've been eating at maintenance and doing cardio and calisthenics, I'm down to 185 already but seem to be holding there at least for the last few days. Looking a lot leaner I think I was bloated on even though I didn't think I was before. Here is my plan for PCT, a little simpler since cycle ended up so short:

    DAA 3g ED 6 weeks
    Nolva 20/20/10/10
    Arimidex 0/0/1/1/1/1

    I will still post end of PCT pics and stats on here if anyone is still interested or would be interested in what to expect if something like this were to happen.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  23. always interested bro! that is why im on these boards.. experiment, research and learn

  24. I had a problem nearly 3 years ago. Had a tear on something in my shoulder forgot what. But the pain comes and goes. Some days I can't bench and somedays I can. Since that injury everyday I work/ stretch my shoulder before EVERYTHING! Been a bit better and honestly helped my bench technique. Lol
    I hope you have a speedy recovery bro.

    Live through my log now >.<

  25. Quote Originally Posted by thyrod View Post
    I had a problem nearly 3 years ago. Had a tear on something in my shoulder forgot what. But the pain comes and goes. Some days I can't bench and somedays I can. Since that injury everyday I work/ stretch my shoulder before EVERYTHING! Been a bit better and honestly helped my bench technique. Lol
    I hope you have a speedy recovery bro.

    Live through my log now >.<
    I had actually recently gotten my bench technique a lot better but I think my shoulder was already damaged too much at that point for it to be enough to stop the injury.

    I'm living through several logs now, including yours lol!
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  26. If benching hurts your shoulder man look into powerlifting style bench. Shoulder blades pinned back, pronounced arch in your back and elbows in, this takes a lot of the emphasis off your shoulder and elbow joints.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    If benching hurts your shoulder man look into powerlifting style bench. Shoulder blades pinned back, pronounced arch in your back and elbows in, this takes a lot of the emphasis off your shoulder and elbow joints.
    This is how I started benching a couple months ago, also if done right your elbows usually only go down to about 90, maybe a little lower. My pain is actually when doing flys mostly though because I tore a part of the rotator cuff that's toward the back. At first only felt in DB flys and then after awhile started to get pain in rear delt fly and also lateral raises.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    If benching hurts your shoulder man look into powerlifting style bench. Shoulder blades pinned back, pronounced arch in your back and elbows in, this takes a lot of the emphasis off your shoulder and elbow joints.
    this is how i bench now due to shoulder injury as well. Helps so much more. I tried benching the normal way and I can now, but I feel the pain

  29. So I had my phys therapy eval and it went well, the doctor said it doesn't seem like my shoulder is injured too bad, usually he gets people coming in that can't even move their arm anymore. Luckily I still have full ROM I just have pain and stiffness a lot of the time, so that's a relief that it's not too bad. He said I'll do 3 weeks of once a week phys therapy sessions and then on the 4th week I'll have a follow up appointment to check my progress. He gave me some stretched and resistance band exercises to do at home 3x a day. I would list the stretches/exercises but they are pretty hard to describe. The only familiar resistance band exercises were internal and external rotations.

    TLDR: Phys therapy shouldn't be too long, hopefully only a month things are going good!

    Also weight still at 185 Haven't been sticking to cardio going to hit some up tomorrow.
    "Lifting and Game of Thrones share the same calendar, there's only two seasons: cutting and bulking. And guess what? Winter's comin' so it's time to bulk up!"
    -Dom Mazzetti

  30. YouTube and link ^^ ill do them with you.
  

  
 

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