Tren or Npp

[machorox123]

Going for my second cycle.. I think a lot of people are because its tax season baby.. Anyway im reasly tempted to go for tren but im a little scared of the sides.. God knows i need sleep being a full time student and having to work as well. Im still leaning towards tren because i wanna be very dryyy. Heres an outline

Test p 200 week 1-10
Tren a or NPP 600 week1-9
Caber on hand

Pct
Clomid 100/50/50/25
Torem 90/60/60/30/30
Erase. 0/0/1/1/1/1
Daa 3/3/3/3/3/3
Ostarine 10/10/10/10/10/10

Also might throw in clen and t3 to really shred up and will use viagra if the low test on cycle isnt enough for the woman lol .. Soooo tren or npp

 

[DetroitHammer]

I'd go with the tren. As stated many places on this site, I hate nandralone no matter what ester it's attaching itself to. The sides with tren generally go away as soon as you get off; they're just beginning with nandralone.

 

[figdaddy]

That seems like a buttload of tren for ur first time. Im using just over 1/3rd of that with a lot of success. Pin everyday to keep the sides low or i would say avoid it completely. Tren can be a bit of a roller coaster even with ED dosing. Id bump the test to around 350 as well and make sure to pin that a least Every other day

 

[machorox123]

I'd go with the tren. As stated many places on this site, I hate nandralone no matter what ester it's attaching itself to. The sides with tren generally go away as soon as you get off; they're just beginning with nandralone.

Whats your beef with nandrolone?

 

[machorox123]

That seems like a buttload of tren for ur first time. Im using just over 1/3rd of that with a lot of success. Pin everyday to keep the sides low or i would say avoid it completely. Tren can be a bit of a roller coaster even with ED dosing. Id bump the test to around 350 as well and make sure to pin that a least Every other day

Go big or go home.lol im only using test as a base i wanna keep water retention loww. If it is too much ill cut it bak. Thats why i wud use ace fast in fast out

 

[figdaddy]

Go big or go home.lol im only using test as a base i wanna keep water retention loww. If it is too much ill cut it bak. Thats why i wud use ace fast in fast out

That kinda ignorance is scary. Enjoy whats going to be pinning almost 100mg ED on ur first tren cycle. In ur case itll prob be, go big THEN go home cuz ur feeling like a manic 14 year old girl. Also one of the main perposes of prop is the lower water retention. U should do more research b4 jumping into this man. I am a lot leaner than u but i need no more than 30mg ED of quality tren. As a first timer going 3x that amount is stupid.

 

[figdaddy]

in other words, test the waters when fking w what people refer to as the "god of anabolics"

 

[machorox123]

That kinda ignorance is scary. Enjoy whats going to be pinning almost 100mg ED on ur first tren cycle. In ur case itll prob be, go big THEN go home cuz ur feeling like a manic 14 year old girl. Also one of the main perposes of prop is the lower water retention. U should do more research b4 jumping into this man. I am a lot leaner than u but i need no more than 30mg ED of quality tren. As a first timer going 3x that amount is stupid.

Your math is off its more like 75mg ED. Low water restention as compared to other esters its by no means dry. 500 is not an insane amount of tren.. I appreciate your concern and it might seem high but i know my body well enough and nor am i stubborn enough to keep on running a compound if my body is not reacting well. Does that saying ever get old around here? Ive been researching anabolics for a couple years now just didnt decide to use them until recently

 

[figdaddy]

to be exact, its ~86mg ED (Hence "almost 100mg ED"). So how u gonna be off by 11mg and bicker about my math being wrong? It is funny that thats what u got out of my post. U werent worth the 5 seconds on the calculator earlier im sorry. And if u cant stay "by any means dry" on prop ur diet needs some tweaking b4 u start and also kinda implies not using an AI, or using one thats bunk or underdosed. But youve def done years of research no doubt, so jump right in

 

[machorox123]

to be exact, its ~86mg ED (Hence "almost 100mg ED"). So how u gonna be off by 11mg and bicker about my math being wrong? It is funny that thats what u got out of my post. U werent worth the 5 seconds on the calculator earlier im sorry. And if u cant stay "by any means dry" on prop ur diet needs some tweaking b4 u start and also kinda implies not using an AI, or using one thats bunk or underdosed. But youve def done years of research no doubt, so jump right in

Lmao it wasnt bickering.. Yu grossly overestimated to make your point thats all. And you probly shouldnt have considering your saying that 30mg is all you need.. My diet is good brotha and i do have an ai..erase. I dont need pharma grade because i know it works bloood tests from my last run to prove it on a scale of 3-70 i was at 18. Yes years of research

 

[DetroitHammer]

Whats your beef with nandrolone?

Over rated, sides you can't control and the anabolic properties are questionable.

 

[machorox123]

Over rated, sides you can't control and the anabolic properties are questionable.

Whats a better alternative

 

[DetroitHammer]

Whats a better alternative

Maybe Stanzabol? Even tren I think is better than Nandralone.

 

[machorox123]

Maybe Stanzabol? Even tren I think is better than Nandralone.

I did think about winny but ive already got bad joints and heard the pip is insane and my source doesnt carry oral

 

[machorox123]

Bump

 

[figdaddy]

U can drink the injectable. I have buddies that do it all the time when they get down to 3% or so. They say at that point the shots can be unbearable.

 

[DetroitHammer]

U can drink the injectable. I have buddies that do it all the time when they get down to 3% or so. They say at that point the shots can be unbearable.

You mean Stanzabol, right?

 

[figdaddy]

I assumed stanzabol was just a brand (or something like that) of stanozolol. Please disregard that post if that is not the case. I have seen some similar named brands out there. But if so, yes u certainly can ingest it orally.

 

[DetroitHammer]

I assumed stanzabol was just a brand (or something like that) of stanozolol. Please disregard that post if that is not the case. I have seen some similar named brands out there. But if so, yes u certainly can ingest it orally.

Yes, you can drink Stanzobol, commonly referred to as Winstrol. But you can't drink testosterone or other injectables.

 

[figdaddy]

Oh no way! Please excuse me if thats how my post sounded! I promise i would never tell anyone to drink their test! lol I've never seen anyone do it w anything but Winny either. I have come across injectable dbol, id imagine it might work w that too, but thats just speculation.

 

[GeraldNY181]

tren is great for strength and making you REALLY agressive....as for mass gains or cuts or whatever never noticed anything tremendous. The boring truth is that diet does more than adding more drugs....Ive had more rage incidences on tren than anything else, not that I minded haha

 

[02sixxer]

I think your starting way to high dose of tren. 100 EOD is effective and bump to 125 or 150 EOD if you think you need it after a few weeks.

The reason a lot of people talk **** about Tren sides is your way of thinking, "Go big or go home." Why not maximize your cycle by assessing your tollerence and limiting sides so you can run the King of anabolics. If not you may buy it and dose to high get freaked the F out and get off. SRS. Seen it several times and seen people post it many times.

 

[Drakee]

NPP is a GREAT anabolic, nothing overrated about it

 

[DetroitHammer]

tren is great for strength and making you REALLY agressive....as for mass gains or cuts or whatever never noticed anything tremendous. The boring truth is that diet does more than adding more drugs....Ive had more rage incidences on tren than anything else, not that I minded haha

I know I get extreme rage when I can't get my tren! I suppose that's considered tren rage?

 

[machorox123]

tren is great for strength and making you REALLY agressive....as for mass gains or cuts or whatever never noticed anything tremendous. The boring truth is that diet does more than adding more drugs....Ive had more rage incidences on tren than anything else, not that I minded haha

I already know believe me.. My diet has been and will continue to be on point. I had it set up by a pro bb.. Im leaning towards tren. Any mass would be a plus but i doubt it with the calorie deficit i woild be at

 

[machorox123]

I think your starting way to high dose of tren. 100 EOD is effective and bump to 125 or 150 EOD if you think you need it after a few weeks.

The reason a lot of people talk **** about Tren sides is your way of thinking, "Go big or go home." Why not maximize your cycle by assessing your tollerence and limiting sides so you can run the King of anabolics. If not you may buy it and dose to high get freaked the F out and get off. SRS. Seen it several times and seen people post it many times.

Im being stubborn. And i dont think ill budge its gnna be a short and sweet cycle. 6 weeks so i really want the most out of it.. Im not worried about sides because im very in tune with my body and can tell if i need to back off and wont hesitate to do so if needed. If not then great!! As far as tren rage im a really mellow dude so someone would basically have to try and pick a fight with me to piss me off but the extra aggression is gnna make the gym really fun