Low Dose Orals on a Caloric Deficit

[TEP25]

Hey Everyone.

I'm sure this has come up before, but I was wondering what type of experience everyone had with this approach.

I was planning on using a low dose of Helladrol, combined with a caloric deficit.
I want to do this for the anti-catabolic qualities of a PH while cutting fat, just to hold on to as much LBM as possible.

Any thoughts and/or critiques are appreciated.
Thanks

[howwedo107]

Hey Everyone.

I'm sure this has come up before, but I was wondering what type of experience everyone had with this approach.

I was planning on using a low dose of Helladrol, combined with a caloric deficit.
I want to do this for the anti-catabolic qualities of a PH while cutting fat, just to hold on to as much LBM as possible.

Any thoughts and/or critiques are appreciated.
Thanks

:thumbs up:

[Gerbil]

You could go on h-drol with maintenance calories and get a nice recomp effect.

[TEP25]

Excellent, thanks for the responses

[Eric160]

whats a low dose? hdrol is so mild

[TEP25]

True, I was thinking of a 6 week plan : 25/25/25/25/25/25
Seeing as the body produces a small amount each day, 25 mgs would keep me on the high side of normal while on a cut/recomp

[Eric160]

True, I was thinking of a 6 week plan : 25/25/25/25/25/25
Seeing as the body produces a small amount each day, 25 mgs would keep me on the high side of normal while on a cut/recomp

way too low of a dose u literaly wont feel a thing. ur body produces a small amount of what?

[ripped_one]

Helladrol does not ' raise test levels'... it will shutdown your natural test levels because you have foreign androgens in your body.

For a recomp to lose fat... I'd go 50mg a day, do consistent cardio, eat clean and in a deficit, etc.

25mg is honestly too weak... and I usually err on the side of low doses for safety reasons.

[Quest]

10 of sd a day for 6 wks is what I'm using to accomplish the same...

[bomb402]

So you built your 235 lb 5 11 frame on prohormones? lol

[TEP25]

thanks for the responses everyone.
bomb402, not really sure what you mean.. This is the first time i'll be using exogenous androgens.
My tendency when I cut is to drop a significant amount of muscle too.
Thats why I ventured into the idea of H-drol as an anti-catabolic.

ripped_one, thanks. Surely any exogenous source would promote shutdown. Just from some preliminary readings, the body of a healthy male around my age produces about 125mg/dl of test per week to keep levels consistent. Thats the reason I commented on keeping helladrol on the very low side. I have to agree though, 25 may be too low.
Thanks again everyone, any more comments are welcome

[warsteiner]

So you built your 235 lb 5 11 frame on prohormones? lol

If the OP is looking to cut then it's pretty obvious that the 235lb isn't all muscle.

[warsteiner]

How about using a stanodrol clone? It's non-methylated so won't be rough on the liver or lipids and will help you hold onto muscle with low cals.

[TEP25]

warsteiner, right on.
I'm definitely looking to cut, but a recomp would be ideal.
Stanadrol is S-Drol??

[warsteiner]

S-Drol is normally Superdrol (2a, 17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol). Stano is 3-beta-hydroxyetioallocholan-17-one. There are a few companies that sell this product (LGI Stano-200, Elite Formations Stano Elite, etc.). It's non-methylated so doesn't tax the liver too much and is great for fat loss and strength gain so you should be able to retain or even increase your strength on a cut. Most people run it at a minimum of 600 per day and the only thing to watch out for is hair loss and this only occurs if you are prone to male pattern baldness.

I ran MMV2 or MMV3 (can't remember which) a couple of years ago, which was Legal Gear's stano and had some great fat loss even on a low cal diet. The recovery was amazing and I was able to add in additional cardio sessions without feeling worn out. The only side effects I had were a slight increase in blood pressure (nothing too bad) and lethargy at about week 5. I ran it for 6 weeks although I can't remember the dosage I used.

[TEP25]

Man, I appreciate the knowledge!!!
Thanks again for the response