Second cycle advice - second opionion needed

[5ampadan]

Hi all,

I was looking for opinions on what I've been recommended for my second cycle. My trainer is an IBFF pro bodybuilder and has recommended I run DECA 200mg + SUST 250mg EOD - (1ml of each mixed EOD) for 6 weeks + Nolvadex 25mg ed and then appropriate amounts for pct.

I'm 25, 187lbs training for 10years+ now. Made and kept some great gains on my first 10week cycle of Dbol + SUST + Test Cypionate. 15lbs of kept gains.

My nutrition is fairly strict. 45% carbs 35% protein 20% fats @ 3500 calories per day. I always eat clean, rarely have cheat meals. Maybe once a fortnight I'll have a lasagne or something!!

I also have a strict training regime and train 4-5 days a week.

I was wondering if the amounts I've been recommended are too much, and whether I could maybe take 2/3s of the dose and still see adequate gains?

Thoughts most welcome, if I've left anything out that you need to know - please ask.

Thanks in advance.

[5ampadan]

Anyone?

[Sleazy E]

You can definately gain with 2/3 of that.

Your IFBB pro trainer is not the brightest crayon in the box if he is recomending you run this cycle for 6 weeks (WTF???).
At 6 weeks Sus and Nandrolone decanoate will just be starting to do their thing.
And he told you to run a SERM (nolva) instead of an AI and a dopamine agonist?
Those are some archaic methods, how old is this guy, 60?



Get yourself an aromatase inhibitor like Aromasin (exemestane). This will help avoid conversion of estrogen and help prevent estro related gyno.
Get a dopamine agonist like cabergoline for any prolactin issues you may get from the deca.
I dont like to run ancillaries unless needed but since you are fairly new to this you may wanna take extra precaution and run em.


This is what I suggest you do:
250mg/wk Sus on monday and thursday
200mg/wk Deca on moday and thursday
12.5mg EOD of aromasin (this is a a low precautinary dose, if you get any gyno symptoms double the dose)
.25mg of Caber on monday and thursday
250IU HCG monday and thursday

Im assuming you know how to properly PCT since you already ran one cycle.....

If you wanna reap the full benefits of these hormones run the cycle at least 12 weeks. 16 would be better.

[Lukef2000]

I agree with most of what the above poster posted. If your going to run Sus you need to inject eod due to the prop component in Sus. Pinning twice a week will not maintain stable blood levels. 200mg eod should be fine. You start to feel like a pin cushion after a few weeks but you get used to it.