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    test cyp @ 300mg/wk


    If I were to do this cycle being around 5'8", 170lbs, 11% BF, would I see decent gains without a lot of bloating?

    Is this a low enough dose to not worry about using an AI ???

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    Your E2 may rise into the female range at that dose but aromatization is individualistic. Older fatter guys tend to aromatize more than leaner younger guys.

    When I was young I could run a gram a week with no AI. That's not possible for me now in my forties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyiron View Post
    Your E2 may rise into the female range at that dose but aromatization is individualistic. Older fatter guys tend to aromatize more than leaner younger guys.

    When I was young I could run a gram a week with no AI. That's not possible for me now in my forties.
    I thought I read that's one of the hypotheseses why Test levels drop as men age. Levels of aromatase rise independent of BF% and activity levels. I'm 36 now and get bloating on 200mgs T weekly for TRT without an AI. IMO 300mgs could be a great cycle but I would add 50-75mgs of Halovar. It really dries me out when ran with Test and I drop BF%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1187 View Post
    If I were to do this cycle being around 5'8", 170lbs, 11% BF, would I see decent gains without a lot of bloating?

    Is this a low enough dose to not worry about using an AI ???
    Bro, I am contemplating the same exact compound/dose for my very first cycle after 14 years of natural training at the age of 31. I think based on your stats you would yield awesome results. Less is more on a first cycle. As far as AI goes, just have one on hand. We have simlar stats too, man. I'm 5'8" 173 lbs, 12 percent BF. Oh yeah, don't let people try to persuade you into doing a heavier dose. 300 mg is way beyond what a man can make naturally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R1187 View Post
    If I were to do this cycle being around 5'8", 170lbs, 11% BF, would I see decent gains without a lot of bloating?

    Is this a low enough dose to not worry about using an AI ???
    Why not just run Formeron concurrent.
    Its a suicidal AI but is also a prohormone to hydroxytestosterone. Great for strength and hardening. Good vascularity from it as well.
    My opinion is prevent the problem not treat symptoms once you have the problem.
    If you run an AI from the beginning you never will have a problem.

    Just use a low dose like 1 pump daily to keep the bloat off.

    Or you can up it a bit and get more bang out of the PH properties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    Why not just run Formeron concurrent.
    Its a suicidal AI but is also a prohormone to hydroxytestosterone. Great for strength and hardening. Good vascularity from it as well.
    My opinion is prevent the problem not treat symptoms once you have the problem.
    If you run an AI from the beginning you never will have a problem.

    Just use a low dose like 1 pump daily to keep the bloat off.

    Or you can up it a bit and get more bang out of the PH properties.
    This sounds like something I want to do.

    Looks like it's available OTC too.

    Thanks man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockme View Post
    Bro, I am contemplating the same exact compound/dose for my very first cycle after 14 years of natural training at the age of 31. I think based on your stats you would yield awesome results. Less is more on a first cycle. As far as AI goes, just have one on hand. We have simlar stats too, man. I'm 5'8" 173 lbs, 12 percent BF. Oh yeah, don't let people try to persuade you into doing a heavier dose. 300 mg is way beyond what a man can make naturally.
    Yeah I'm very curious about what 300mg will do.

    I'm not a big guy so I figure that's a good place to start.
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    At 240lbs and a 7 site caliper measured 15% I was growing on 200mgs Test and 75mgs of Halovar. I love that stuff, it's my favorite oral behind Dbol.
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