Sustanon 300 and anadrol winter bulk!

[Lukef2000]

On monday this week i started my winter bulk. Ill be pinning 150mg Sustanon 300 EOD for a total of 16 weeks. Mon wed fri sun one week then tues thurs and sat the next. That equates to 600mg one week and 450mg the next then repeat. i also have 50 tabs of anadrol which i also started on monday. i will be dosing these at one tab daily for the first two weeks and then two per day the last two weeks or so until theyre finished. Im trying to source some injectable winstrol for the last six weeks but all depending on availability. This is my first injectable cycle as i have been all natty up untill this point. I am currently ramping up my calories to around 3000 - 3500 per day by sunday this week. My stats are 180 lbs (82kg) 14% BF and about a year back training (Had surgery on my back last year and was out for quite awhile)and about two years training before my surgery. Ill be following a FST-7 style training routine. Ill be dosing erase to try and eliminate bloat and any excess estrogen and if that doesnt work i have armidex on hand ( i have three bottles of erase on hand so i might as well use them ). For PCT ill be doing clomid at 100/50/50/25 as awell as endosurge and if i didnt use armidex throughout cycle to combat sides ill use that up during PCT to reduce estrogen rebound. Anyone see any problems with my layout?? Ill try to update daily with workouts and calories. ill try to get some starting pics up at some point over the next few days.
Luke

[Lukef2000]

Day Five
Shoulders and traps
Dumbbell shoulder press
70s x 9 x 8 x 6 drop 55s x 5 drop 45s x 3

Alternating dumbbell front raise
35s x 10 x 10 x 10 drop 25s x 8

Reverse Cable flyes
40 per side x 8 x 6
30per side x 13

Side lateral raises
25s x 10 x 10 x 10 x 8
20s x 10 x 8 x 6

Barbell Shrugs
225 x 10 x 10 x 10

Dumbbell shrugs
100 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10

All in all considering i only had four hours sleep after a 13 hour night shift last night i think todays workout went quite well. Calories for the day were 2934. Felt sick off eating this much food in a 8 hour window but i didnt get out of bed till 130pm and will be in bed before 10pm. its my third injection today and my delts are still quite sore so ill have to get my girlfriend to stick it in the glutes. no sides as of yet but im up 3lbs since monday which is probably just a bit of water and glycogen.

[DetroitHammer]

This should be in the TRT section.

[Lukef2000]

This should be in the TRT section.

Hey umm i dont mean to sound like a douche but why would it be in TRT when it's not being used for TRT?? 600mgs a week is a bit high for a TRT dose lol

[DetroitHammer]

Hey umm i dont mean to sound like a douche but why would it be in TRT when it's not being used for TRT?? 600mgs a week is a bit high for a TRT dose lol

When you break it down it's weak. I did a complete breakdown in one of these threads a few weeks ago. You'd be much better off with some combination of Test E and Test Prop, dumping the ester-heavy sustanon. Don't forget that Sustanon was developed for TRT patients who were too lazy to inject once a week, so they "invented" a c ocktail of short/very long esters that would give the patient a little bit of test pinning once a month. You'll eventually build up some depot and start to have a TRT+ level of test, but nothing to get excited about. You're basically living off the prop EOD.

[Lukef2000]

When you break it down it's weak. I did a complete breakdown in one of these threads a few weeks ago. You'd be much better off with some combination of Test E and Test Prop, dumping the ester-heavy sustanon. Don't forget that Sustanon was developed for TRT patients who were too lazy to inject once a week, so they "invented" a c ocktail of short/very long esters that would give the patient a little bit of test pinning once a month. You'll eventually build up some depot and start to have a TRT+ level of test, but nothing to get excited about. You're basically living off the prop EOD.

Yeah I'm not a big fan of the multi ester test blends but since I'm working in quite a remote area it's not that easy to get your hands on much. I was chasing test e for a few months before finally settling on sus. I know it's weak due to the ester weight in it but that's why I decided to go for a 16 week cycle instead of the 12 weeks most people go by. I know there's 74mg of ester in 1ml sus250 but I can't seem to find the ester breakdown of sus300. Even if it's as high as 100mg per 300mg I'll still be getting 400mg of test right?

[DetroitHammer]

Yeah I'm not a big fan of the multi ester test blends but since I'm working in quite a remote area it's not that easy to get your hands on much. I was chasing test e for a few months before finally settling on sus. I know it's weak due to the ester weight in it but that's why I decided to go for a 16 week cycle instead of the 12 weeks most people go by. I know there's 74mg of ester in 1ml sus250 but I can't seem to find the ester breakdown of sus300. Even if it's as high as 100mg per 300mg I'll still be getting 400mg of test right?

Yes and no. Without breaking it down (I'm just too lazy at the moment) you'll get the bulk with the prop for the two days, then live off the next injection for the prop. So the longer estered test will eventually build up over time, but it's the prop that'll give you what you need. In other words, if you only did one injection a week, you'd get your high on Monday and Tuesday, then taper off dramatically until next Monday. So if you broke it down to let's say 300 Sust = 170 suspension (I'm just making this number up) you'd get maybe 120 on Monday and Tuesday, and only 50 the rest of the week. With your frequent injections, you'd compensate for the tapering off. You'll be fine, I just really dislike Sustanon, but given your situation I'd do the same thing.

Just curious, you're not in the Outback working, are you?

[Lukef2000]

Yes and no. Without breaking it down (I'm just too lazy at the moment) you'll get the bulk with the prop for the two days, then live off the next injection for the prop. So the longer estered test will eventually build up over time, but it's the prop that'll give you what you need. In other words, if you only did one injection a week, you'd get your high on Monday and Tuesday, then taper off dramatically until next Monday. So if you broke it down to let's say 300 Sust = 170 suspension (I'm just making this number up) you'd get maybe 120 on Monday and Tuesday, and only 50 the rest of the week. With your frequent injections, you'd compensate for the tapering off. You'll be fine, I just really dislike Sustanon, but given your situation I'd do the same thing.

Just curious, you're not in the Outback working, are you?

Yeah I figured that the short esters would be where i would get most from but in running the longer cycle I thought it would give enough time to let the longer esters to build up in my blood and start doing their thing

Not quite the outback but it's not that far off. I'm in a mining town that's about 150miles away from the nearest decent town / city on the coast.

[Lukef2000]

Day six
Today was arm day. Had a good session but I forgot that the gym was only open 3 hours so I had to cut it short. Got through most of it tho except I only got four sets out of seven done for biceps.
Weighted dips
90 x 6
65 x 8
45 x 12
Bw x 15

Seated overhead dumbbell extension
90 x 10 x 8
85 x 9

Single arm laying dumbbell ext
30 x 5
25 x 8
20 x 12

V bar pushdowns
145 x 13 x 11 x 10 x 8
130 x 10 x 9 x 8

EZ bar curls
Bar + 65 x 11 x 7
55 x 9
45 x 12

Dumbbell hammer curls
35s x 8
25s x 12 x 8

Cable crossover double biceps
Plate 7 x 12 x 12 x 10 x 8

Diet was on point today around 3200 cals. 300g protein 200g carbs and 130g fats. No pin today. No sides as of yet. Probably just a placebo but I'm feeling quite good when i get in the gym. Aggression towards lifting has gone up but thats probably just a mental thing.

[zubda345]

hey man!! I just got finished wid the final review. I will keep an eye on here. Keep the good work up

[Lukef2000]

Day seven
Leg day.

Squats
285 x 7
265 x 8
245 x 7
225 x 12 drop 135 x 10

Walking dumbbell lunges
55s x 9 x 8
50s x 9

Leg press
350 x 12 x 12 x 12 kept these light and focused on explosive movement up with a slow negative down

Leg extension
Plate 5 from 10 x 12 x 12 x 11 x 10 x 7
Plate 4 from ten x 12 x 12 my quads were toasted I actually had trouble walking upstairs to the cardio area lol.

STiff legged deadlift
135 x 12 x 10 x 10

Standing calve raise
200 x 12 x 10 x 9

Seated calve raise
175 x 16 x 15 x 15 x 14 x 15 x 12 x 10

Went upstairs and did 15 mins of walking on the treadmill. I find that the DOMS is nowhere near as bad if I do this after leg day. Im
Going to ve quite sore tomorrow due to not doing legs the last week and a half. Calories were 2999 today 300g protein 225g carbs 100g fats. I did miss a meal due to sleeping in to 1030. Might try and eat a bit more before bed tonight. Pinned 150mg of sus and took 1 anadrol tab. Am starting to get a few pimples but nothing really notable at this point. I'm quite surprised that I haven't started to bloat as of yet from the anadrol. From what I've read it gets quite bad quite quick. Maybe I'm just not prone to it ??

[Lukef2000]

hey man!! I just got finished wid the final review. I will keep an eye on here. Keep the good work up

Thanks for following bro. Yeah I read your review. Glad you enjoyed it.

[Lukef2000]

[Lukef2000]

Above are my starting pics. Still a bit fat for my liking but it's winter here and no one except those following will see me without a shirt lol. got plenty of time for this cycle, pct and a cut before summer

[ozHarris]

I'm in for the ride..
Good luck..

[Lukef2000]

I'm in for the ride..
Good luck..

Thanks for joining bro!

[Lukef2000]

Day 8
Weight unknown. I'll probably do weekly updates on weight . Fasted first thing in the morning.
Chest day.
Flat dumbbell press
90s x 9 x 7 x 6
80s x 10 drop 45s x 5

Incline dumbbell chest press
80s x 5 PR! Was feeling strong. Didn't think I'd actually get them up.
70s x 6 x 8 drop 45s x 6

Incline barbell bench press
135 x 10 x 10 x 10 I didn't have a spotter and the smith machines were taken. I focussed on explosive upwards movement and a slow negative.

Flat press machine
135 x 6 x 7 x 5
Superset
Pec deck
70 x 4
60 x 10 x 8

High pulley cable flyes
50 x 13 x 13 x 12 x 9 x 8 x 8 x 5
My cheat was toast after this.

I have the worst DOMS today in my quads. I'm actually crippled lol.
Diet was good today. I had to rely on some shakes I made with whey, oats, natty PB and banana because I had to travel 3 hours to hand over a contract and then drive 3 hours back so I had two of these. 3196 calories 256g protein 236g carbs and 135 g fats.
I think I might be getting the crappy feeling from the anadrol. During the day I kept just feeling like crap. Only lasted about 30 mins on and off during the day.

[zubda345]

Above are my starting pics. Still a bit fat for my liking but it's winter here and no one except those following will see me without a shirt lol. got plenty of time for this cycle, pct and a cut before summer

Yeah u got time.. Take it easy

[Lukef2000]

I'm not in any great rush to get cut at the moment. If I can get some winstrol I might run that for the last 4-6 weeks but if I can't I'll probably do an 8 week cut start of November.

[Lukef2000]

Day nine
Off day. Pinned 150mg sus300 and took one anadrol tablet. Today was an unplanned off day. Was supposed to hit back but I'm having serious trouble with mobility after legs two days ago. If I'm going to go through this after every week I take off I might not actually take another week off... Ever! Will make up the back session on thursday or Friday. Calories are a bit high for an off day but I didnt decide not to go until about 2pm. 2760 calories 298g protein 136g carbs 104g fats.