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    First Cycle-Test Cypionate


    Hey Gents,
    So I decidedto step into the dark side and do my first cycle. I have been researching and reading thecforums for about a year. Well since itís my first cycle, Iím going to be taking Test Cypionate. Iím starting this cycle next month because Iím still waiting to get my support supps(liver support, Fish oil, vitamins, ect) and have my PCT on hand. Now with whatI have read, it seems that mostly everyone runs a 12 week cycle. Is this true also for a newbie like myselfwho is doing his first cycle? Should I bump it down to 8? Or is that not a goodidea since it will not start kicking in until about week 3? Also, I forgot tomention that Iím going to get blood work done before I start this. Just waitingto see if the VA will cover it. If not,Iíll take my ass to LabCorp. I also planto log everything down here. Iíve neverdone that before but from the logs that I have read the info basically consistsof workouts, diet, moods, side-effects (Am I missing anything?).

    I have some questionsthat Iím still confused about. Dosage. Iíveread about people taking anywhere from 300mg to 600mg per week. Since this is my first cycle, what is therecommended dosage for a newbie? Pre-workout Supp. Iíve read that some people take a pre-workoutsupp while on cycle and some donít. Is this necessary or should the Test beenough to get me through my workouts? Arimidex. Is it recommended to take thison cycle to keep estrogen levels on check?

    History:Been weightlifting since I joined the Marines at age 18. Iím 25 now so thatís 6 years of weighttraining.

    Stats:Height 5í10Ē, Weight 245lbs., BF 18%

    Goal: Bulk, strength

    My trainingis going to look like this:
    Day 1-Chest/Tris/Abs
    Day 2-Back/bis
    Day 3-Shoulders/ Traps
    Day 4- Legs/Abs
    Day 5- Rest
    Day 6 Repeat

    Cardio: IHATE cardio! But will do it twice a week for 20 minutes.

    Diet:Stocking up on eggs, chicken breast, tuna and tilapia for protein along withSyntha-6 for my whey protein and either casein or cottage cheese for my latenight snack. For carbs, Iím sticking with brown rice and sweet potatoes and mygreens will be frozen mixed veggies. Iímlooking to get 6-7 meals a day with my first one starting at 5:30 am (pre-workoutshake).

    Pct:Nolvadex, AI, Cortisol Control but Iím not sure about the dosage. Read of people taking Nolva at 20/20/20/20but I would not know since I have never done a cycle. If you guys see any flawshere please enlighten me with some wisdom because I would like to keep most ofmy gain.


    Ok, wellthis is a long post but this is my rough draft. Iím picking up my Test Cyp today, Iím excited! Getting the rest of thestuff I need next pay day
    J.


    Constructivecriticism is appreciated.

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    What are yur goals..You need to break down yur macros better..Twelve weeks is fine at 500 mg pct could be extended a lil bit.Yu wanna saturate the bloodstream the first couple of days so do 80 for a few days then 40/40/20/20/10
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    get yur bf% down to like 14 before yu cycle and see post3
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    Goals as stated in the first post are bulk and strenght. As for the macro breakdown, I know I'm at least going to get 250g of protein a day. Still searching and how many carbs I should be taking. Ok, so you are suggesting 500mg a week for the whole 12 weeks? Since this is my first injectable, would it be wise to introduce the Test at a lower dosage, lets say 300mg for the first 2 weeks then move up to 500? Or is that a waste of time and gear? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, I'll be shooting up every 3rd day.

    Thanks for your replies BTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt0311
    Goals as stated in the first post are bulk and strenght. As for the macro breakdown, I know I'm at least going to get 250g of protein a day. Still searching and how many carbs I should be taking. Ok, so you are suggesting 500mg a week for the whole 12 weeks? Since this is my first injectable, would it be wise to introduce the Test at a lower dosage, lets say 300mg for the first 2 weeks then move up to 500? Or is that a waste of time and gear? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, I'll be shooting up every 3rd day.

    Thanks for your replies BTW.
    Lmao "shooting up" makes yu sound like a crackhead.. Nah starting at 500 is fine there will be a delay because of the long eaters so I yu want yu cu kick start with an oral or somethin with a shorter eater..
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    I forgot to mention I'm stacking this with heroin, sorry LOL! Anyways, idk about adding an oral for a kickstart. Its my first cycle and want to test the waters first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt0311
    I forgot to mention I'm stacking this with heroin, sorry LOL! Anyways, idk about adding an oral for a kickstart. Its my first cycle and want to test the waters first.
    Good for yu brah.. Usually newbs always think more is better. Jus don't get discouraged at first cuz once it kicks in thee gain are gnna be awesome
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    Test only is fine for a first cycle. Length will depend on you, if you don't have HCG I wouldn't run over 8 weeks. For me recovery was always the hardest and if I didn't have HCG in there I wouldn't. I would also run a low dose AI since your BF% is up there to keep sides down. 400-500mgs weekly will be plenty and have all your PCT drugs on hand before starting, PoWeR PCT is a decent start for researching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad rad
    Test only is fine for a first cycle. Length will depend on you, if you don't have HCG I wouldn't run over 8 weeks. For me recovery was always the hardest and if I didn't have HCG in there I wouldn't. I would also run a low dose AI since your BF% is up there to keep sides down. 400-500mgs weekly will be plenty and have all your PCT drugs on hand before starting, PoWeR PCT is a decent start for researching.
    I don't think the amount of bf has anything to do with wether or not the test armatizes. Could be wrong but I'm pretty sure it doesn't.. But AI isn't a bad idea regardless
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    Yeah, I'm going to work on lowering my BF in the next couple of weeks while I wait for my other stuff to get here. Thanks for the input!
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    I don't think the amount of bf has anything to do with wether or not the test armatizes. Could be wrong but I'm pretty sure it doesn't.. But AI isn't a bad idea regardless
    BF% has a lot to due with estrogen related sides, adipose tissue is where most aromatase is. This is why there is obesity induced hypo-gonadism, low test levels from being too fat. Aromatse inhibitors have been used correcct this in obese patients.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bad rad

    BF% has a lot to due with estrogen related sides, adipose tissue is where most aromatase is. This is why there is obesity induced hypo-gonadism, low test levels from being too fat. Aromatse inhibitors have been used correcct this in obese patients.
    Probly a poor choice of words.. My minset is that everyone is working out and has decent knowledge of how to train.Understandable with the obeisity but what about people like myself. I am around 18% but am the strongest in my gym not the most fit but pretty damn good for a big guy.(off season wrestler). Point being if working out affects cortisol estrogen and testosterone in a good way and me being in good shape would there be more of a significant chance of estrogen related sides
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    Probly a poor choice of words.. My minset is that everyone is working out and has decent knowledge of how to train.Understandable with the obeisity but what about people like myself. I am around 18% but am the strongest in my gym not the most fit but pretty damn good for a big guy.(off season wrestler). Point being if working out affects cortisol estrogen and testosterone in a good way and me being in good shape would there be more of a significant chance of estrogen related sides
    Simple answer is yes, the more BF you have the higher your levels of aromatase. Once you start injecting more test the problems just get worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by machorox123 View Post
    Probly a poor choice of words.. My minset is that everyone is working out and has decent knowledge of how to train.Understandable with the obeisity but what about people like myself. I am around 18% but am the strongest in my gym not the most fit but pretty damn good for a big guy.(off season wrestler). Point being if working out affects cortisol estrogen and testosterone in a good way and me being in good shape would there be more of a significant chance of estrogen related sides
    As stated, adipose tissue is where most aromatase is. Aromatase is the enzyme that converts test into estradiol. More aromatase = more estrogen. More estrogen = more estrogen related sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpmartyr

    As stated, adipose tissue is where most aromatase is. Aromatase is the enzyme that converts test into estradiol. More aromatase = more estrogen. More estrogen = more estrogen related sides.
    I seee.. Thanks for the enlightenment lol
  

  
 

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