Yaz, thanks again for another detailed and well thought out post.
To begin, yes I know that diet and cardio determine how clean the bulk is or well the cut is actually going to go. I keep referring to a dry lean bulk because I'm looking to use compounds that give a hard, dry, dense appearance to an already lean body. I know that I could take any compounds and dirty bulk or vice versa. I just want to stay very dry looking while increasing my mass with a very clean bulk diet.
I am hesitant to use anything that aromatizes or long ester test for a few reasons:
1. I have preexisting gyno and I don't see the need to take chances with it by taking things that aromatize (deca, dbol, MENT, etc...)
2. I plan to start this cycle at about 8% so I really want to take advantage of this and cycle with compounds that will really polish off my physique and give mr the hard, dry, cut from stone look. That's why I decided on the 1-Test Cyp and the MHN. They both seem to be right what I am looking for. A member of the elite fitness forums has been taking MHN and absolutely loving it. Said he's gaining a decent amount of pure LBM, been losing fat, and really just feeling great on it. That sounds perfect to me.
3. I've been deciding on Test Prop over Test Cyp or Enan because prop bloats you less. I really don't want ANY bloat during this cycle. I actually want the complete opposite, very dry. Do you think I would have issues with bloat on Test Cyp + 1-Test Cyp with an aromasin? I really am just afraid of bloat/gyno since I do seem to be sensitive to estrogen. I know mixing the 1-Test Cyp with Prop will be a PITA but if I will have less bloat and less chance of gyno than I am all for it.
Sorry if I forgot to respond to any of your points, I am on my phone which makes it difficult.
- No problem, don't mention it.
1) Pre-existing gyno, no matter the cycle if you used the appropriate drugs (meaning depending of what kind of gyno it is) and the problem isn't gone, i would highly suggest you doing research for surgery - only way to go for permanent gyno.
2) 8% is great for your goal - go for it. Yeap MHN indeed seems to be like Epistane on the LBM part and partially on the appeareance (it gives more, hardness/dryness than fullness).
3) Seriously don't worry about bloating, as long as you have clean diet - appropriate caloric intake & cardio is highly unlikely for you to get any kind of bloating - if you do just up a little bit your AI - i understand exactly what you want, but trust me when i say that there won't be any issues. It's far better to try using the same or similar esters(half life wise) in any cycle instead of mixing completely different ones.
3) DHB is a very very dry steroid, absolutely no bloating what's so ever - not an aromatizable compound.
The fact is that most users seem to get way less water retention with shorter esters than with longer ones.
Choose or Arimidex or Aromasin, whatever you like and start with the doses i mentioned above and work you way up if you need to - be very careful with the weight your moving when you're on a cycle like this, because it's easy to hurt joints/tendons.
- If you still want to go with prop run it for at least 12 weeks along with DHB (it will stay on your system for 12 days, so PCT 2 weeks after last injection) - 100-150mg EOD.
- Joint support IMO you should run in this cycle - Glucosamine, Chondroiting, MSN. I generally recommend some type of joint support(ex. Glucosamine) should be run year round along with Omega 3s.
- No problem, if you want later quote specific parts of my previous post you'd like to talk over.
- Do be honest i would love to see a log if you go with DHB and MHN because generally there aren't that many on the net. Log meaning very detailed - with diet, training, before and after bloodwork and before/during/after pictures of your progress, mention weight etc, generally writing a couple times a week.
What pinning frequency are you planning with the 1 test cyp? 200mg 2x a week, or are you going to pin it once a week?
I believe he will do it 2 times per week, because it is a cypionate ester.