Ok first time pinning... help with cycle.
- 02-13-2011, 03:42 PM
Ok first time pinning... help with cycle.
Ok i have test depot and some trenbol 100.
If i were to run these i was thinking....
Trenbol 100= 100mg/8wks
Test Depot= 250mg/8wks
Plenty of prohormones, so maybe i could start M14add in the beginning 4wks?
Or epi, SD, 19 nor, etc. etc.
I have nolva always on hand, and support supps.
What yall think? experienced speakers please.
- 02-13-2011, 06:05 PM
02-13-2011, 10:10 PM
I wouldn't suggest Trenbolone on your 1st cycle, but if you're gonna do it anyway...
I would run the Test 1-2wks longer than the Tren just to make sure it has cleared your system.
02-13-2011, 11:49 PM
Ok not suggesting tren for my first... How come bud? Just figuring your reasoning....
And im not like typical stubborn peeps haha. I would just need some reasoning behind it.
Now i am experienced with ph's..... Taken dbol and what not....
Now i know i respond to epi ph very well. So should i consider equipoise? Even though its a cutting agent?
If anything maybe i should just stick to test....
My goal Is mainly to place some wet mass on me heard trenbolone would be good with that. I would kinda like to way away from dbol and test.... If there is a shot for mass and not cut, Like wet gains. I am just really trying to hit 200....
02-13-2011, 11:52 PM
If your curious about diet ill get 3000 in easy. Mainly eating everything under the table..... My metabolism is just soo rediculous.... Im trying to fit more calories and stretch my stumach out but that will take time. If i could get 4000 or 4500 i would maybe gain something lol..... Thats a lot of food.... Friends and girl already complains about how much food i eat haha.
02-14-2011, 12:08 AM
Whoever told you tren produces wet gains is wrong, many believe tren is the one steroid that actually burns fat from all the sweats.
In the end, it's all about diet and training really, to gain weight, you have to be at a positive energy balance, (eat more calories than you burn.)
02-14-2011, 12:44 AM
I was looking into deca but was not sure.... Ok ill look into that and hold the tren off on the side for another day....
But all i need is 15 but 20 to 35 is fine...
Yeah i hove got the protein intake and carbs.... WAsnt noticing much of a diference And weight would gradually increase and then stop.... With me at 185-190 kinda like a platue at weight gain hahaha.....
But im trying to incorporate more fat. Which might help.... Like i said metabolism is rediculous.... Heres what i ate today for an example.
meal one: two bowls of cereal. protein shake
meal two: plate of spaghetti with mazarella bread(by the way amazing!)
meal three: pork chop in cream of mushroom slop, with rice and collard greens
meal four: Bowl of ice cream and black berry pie and protein shake.
meal five: Crescount(sp?) with turkey, cheese, and mayo
meal six: Spaghetti similar to two
meal seven: Protein before bed and cottage cheese with jelly mix.
02-14-2011, 03:11 PM
02-15-2011, 11:31 AM
Tren is not used for a first timer because of the sides. They are a major factor in the use of tren. It is the juice of the Gods but only if you can take the sides.
The best cycle for a first timer is usually 12 wks of 500-600mg/wk of Test e or c with some kind of 4-5wk oral kick start. This way you know how your body reacts to test. Then you can start to add other aas into the mix.
02-15-2011, 11:42 AM
02-15-2011, 12:00 PM
No need to stack AAS on your first cycle. Next time add Deca if mass is still your goal. Side effects can be a bitch and knowing which compound is responsible makes the sides easier to manage.
Also, do a lot of reading before you start. PCT is a good place to begin.
02-15-2011, 02:55 PM
02-15-2011, 03:00 PM
So ill just stick with prop and that will be it maybe some dbol depending what kind of deal i get it for.
Plus whats wrong with my diet? If im trying to gain why not eat like i am? i am getting plenty of protein.... CArbs fat im getting plenty of also..
Ill admit pork i dont eat all the time and is not my favorite.
Nothing wrong with the spaghetti. Its full of veggies. Squash celery corn tomatoes, whole wheat pasta, ground beaf with turkey sausage! finaminal!
02-15-2011, 03:48 PM
for comparison here is my rough diet:
1)wake up: 15-20mg BCAA with 8oz OJ
2)breakfast hr later (after shower): 5-6 whole eggs with 7-8 eggs whites, 1.5-2 cups oatmeal, 1 box raisins
3)2 chicken wraps... 8-9oz chicken split on two 100% whole wheat wraps, lettice, few slices of avacodo, large apple
4)8-9oz chicken, 10-11oz sweet potato, 28g mac nuts or almonds
5)pre workout: 25g whey with 25g casien, 1 cup oatmeal
6)post workout 50g whey with 100g waxy maize
7)repeat meal 4 or 10oz 94%lean ground beef with 1-1.5 cup oatmeal
8)before bed: 50g casein 2 tablespoons almonds and 2 tablespoons walnut oil
*once a wk i would have a cheat meal and go to 5 guys and have 2 burgers and reg fry... IT WAS ALWAYS SOOO YUMMY! LOVE THAT PLACE!
*occasionally instead of meal 3 I got MHPs Up Your Mass (very solid weight gainer if you look at ing list) and mix the recommended scoops with whole milk for 900+cal meal.
02-15-2011, 03:49 PM
02-15-2011, 04:07 PM
Its not set in stone. I mean I love whole wheat pasta too, 50% italian here but I also make sure I brown my lean beef to add to the sauce or cook up some chicken to add in. I also will switch out for some brown rice instead of all the oats. Heck sometimes I will have 2 Up your Mass shakes with whole milk 900 cal each and then go for my cheat meal that night with the gf. I mean I am probably at 6000 cal or more that day but I grow! Some people this would be way too much but for my and my fast metabolism, esp on aas, its needed. Make it simple so its very easy to follow.
02-15-2011, 04:10 PM
02-15-2011, 05:34 PM
My thing was that trying to eat healthy and trying to gain weight was just not cutting it for me.... My metabolism is redonculous! So i was like lets throw in more fat!!! haha. Here is my thing. I have crohnes and my dad has a an awsome metabolism and so does my grandpa they are both old and still look skinny and eat everything under the table...... I will love it in the long run.... But holyshiznit what a pain in A$$!
That diet was just an example by the way i dont eat ice cream every single day lol. I splurge one week out of the month lol. ok maybe 2 wks....... But the two weeks is rare.
I also love up your mass that stuff was sweet! it put a solid mass on me. But the only problem is i cant have egg it upsets my stumach..... A ton of weight gainers have egg albumin (sp?) In it.. Runs right through me.... So i try to make my own gainer with oats. or use lean body by labrada
02-15-2011, 05:38 PM
I have seen some beginning cycles with equipoise, but not many. I think that is also a cutting? Im not so familiar with this stuff like i am with ph's.... This is why i listen.
But on the dbol. I can get gyno real easy.... So i i wanted to stay away from it..... But maybe i could. Its been a while since i have taken dbol.... About 3 yrs er so.... I loved the mass though from what i can remember.... Maybe i couls stack erase with it...... Im not to fond of taking serm's for long periods of time....
02-15-2011, 05:42 PM
02-15-2011, 06:02 PM
02-15-2011, 06:55 PM
02-15-2011, 07:25 PM
02-15-2011, 07:29 PM
I bet you could gain 20lb in one year with a solid diet that doesn't include fu*king ice cream. The only steroids you need are the ones you get second hand by eating red meat.
I try not to comment on these types of threads because I really do NOT give a **** what you to with your body. But for ****ing crying out loud you listed ice cream in your diet so now it's gloves off.
02-15-2011, 07:38 PM
You can get gyno with test just as easy as dbol if your prone to it.
SERMs for a long time?!?!?! huh?!?!? If you are worried about gyno on cycle run a AI during your cycle. You only need to worry about SERMs if you start to develop gyno and during PCT
It seems like you really need to do some more research before jumping into the aas you are talking about. Just a suggestion. You dont know very basic stuff.
Similar Forum Threads
- By rdinero22 in forum Cycle InfoReplies: 14Last Post: 08-10-2010, 10:10 AM
- By B4n3 0n3 in forum AnabolicsReplies: 41Last Post: 10-18-2006, 05:19 PM
- By NeilB in forum AnabolicsReplies: 38Last Post: 04-15-2005, 10:04 PM
- By can_o_whoop_ass in forum AnabolicsReplies: 6Last Post: 08-10-2004, 02:19 PM