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    Morry's Test P/Test E cycle + PCT, thinkin I'll hit 375 bench????


    Here's the cycle, here is the orginal thread hashing out some details
    Morry's pretty much sold on going injectables
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    weeks 1-10= test e 500mg (2ML) per week @ 250mg twice a week (1ML @ the concentration I am ordering)
    weeks 1-4 = test p 100mg (1ML @ the concentration I am ordering) EOD
    weeks 2-10= HCG 500mcgs per week @ 250mcgs twice a week (ordering 5000iu and will reconstitute with 10ml BW making each shot .5ml
    weeks 1-12= Liquid Letro at .5ml (.625mg) EOD or E3D, for the first week it will be ED, then I'll see how the joints feel and move it to EOD or E3D
    weeks 13-20= Liquid Tamoxifen [30.4 molecular weight because it is the citrate verion, for a total of 20mg of actual tamoxifen] (40/40/20/20/10/10/5/5)[depends on how I feel, I may stop tamox @ week 16 and just stick with S1 as it is non suppresive)
    weeks 12-20 = Osta S1 Sarms (takes a week to start working, maybe cut this shorter, not sure yet)
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    Log begins today! Things moved along quicker than expected, but I had everyhting on hand just in case this happened.

    Weight 212lb
    BF-scale says 23%, calipers say 13% at worst. I can see my abs so I'm guessing 13 is much closer.

    I workout in a 3 day split. If recovery wll allow and I don't feel like I'm overtraining,I'll combine 2 splits for a 6 day 1 off routine.

    LEGS/ARMS, CHEST/ABS, BACK/SHOULDERS, REPEAT

    Every day has at least 2 circuits, the rest are super sets. I've been working up to this routine for a while now......yes circuits suck balls when you start them, but they are making me much stronger

    Inject went well. Heated the oil next to a heater for a min or so. Pinned with 25 gauge 1 inch, 3 ml pin, 1 ml test e, 1 ml test P, same pin. Pinned in the right quad. Painless inject, pushed the needle in the whole inch, aspirated (all good). Pushed nice and slow, then a quick massage. No discomfort at all. I equalized the pressure on the Test P bc it seemed to really be under some pressure. After I did that, it came out damn easy. Test E was very easy. I took a moment to find a "good" injection spot, clear of fat and veins. Just good hearty muscles to shoot this crap into. Worked well.

    The muscle did stiffen after a few minutes, luckily for me it was leg day, so I stretched and hit the weights. Quad was tight during the workout, but surprisingly it feels pretty normal now. I imagine it will be sore tomorrow, but it would've been sore regardless, I hit my legs damn good today.

    Obvious placebo effect, I've cycled orals many times, so my body is anticipating this feeling. The workout was high in intesity and really let me punish myself, but it was mental. No way I felt any test as of yet....


    PCT is covered in my last thread, but I'll cover it again when I get closer. It will have OSTARINE in it. I already recieved my bottle. Sitting nice in the back of my research facility.

    The only thing I might add to the end of this cycle is (starting week 6, ending week 12) is maybe Stanozolol or Anavar. This will depend on my water retention and overall progress. If I think it'll help by week 3, I'll go ahead and order me some....

    I did take pics today. I plan on posting weekly or bi weekly.

    Come on in and enjoy my first ride with injectables.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by mich29 View Post
    finally kill this **** man fo real I been ready for this one .
    Welcome bro and get comfortable for the ride. This is going to be effin sweet!


    Test P was surprisinly painless to inject although I've read it is one of the more painful injectables. I guess my source did a good job making it.

    Quad is a bit sore this morning but nothing I couldn't manage. I could even workout legs today if it were leg day. I've done IM injections before, just never with gear, so I think it helped me out. I think the key is to make sure that muscle stay relaxed during the inject. The injection site is to small to see too.

    Chest/ABS is later today, then dinner with a beautiful little friend of mine.

    I am a bit surprised at my weight yesterday bc I worked out with my friend at Gold's a few weeks back and weighed in at 202 there. I was cutting and continued to cut. I'll keep track of my weight via the scale I used yesterday, then in 5 or 6 weeks I'll get on another scale just to see the difference between the two. I bought a scale just for this cycle and I am the only one that will use it.

    Next Monday I'll post my first before and after. Then every week after I will do the same. Keep the thread bumped my meathead brothers. I'm hoping to pull some of you over to the dark side.


    BTW- NO QUESTION IS STUPID AT THIS POINT!!! If you want to ask about the injections, sides, moods, workout, whatever, go for it. Either in this thread or PM. I had a lot of help from a lot of really smart guys on here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    For a first inject cycle this looks good, I really like how you are using hcg, I'll be watching this
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    Quote Originally Posted by morry View Post
    Welcome bro and get comfortable for the ride. This is going to be effin sweet!


    Test P was surprisinly painless to inject although I've read it is one of the more painful injectables. I guess my source did a good job making it.

    Quad is a bit sore this morning but nothing I couldn't manage. I could even workout legs today if it were leg day. I've done IM injections before, just never with gear, so I think it helped me out. I think the key is to make sure that muscle stay relaxed during the inject. The injection site is to small to see too.

    Chest/ABS is later today, then dinner with a beautiful little friend of mine.

    I am a bit surprised at my weight yesterday bc I worked out with my friend at Gold's a few weeks back and weighed in at 202 there. I was cutting and continued to cut. I'll keep track of my weight via the scale I used yesterday, then in 5 or 6 weeks I'll get on another scale just to see the difference between the two. I bought a scale just for this cycle and I am the only one that will use it.

    Next Monday I'll post my first before and after. Then every week after I will do the same. Keep the thread bumped my meathead brothers. I'm hoping to pull some of you over to the dark side.


    BTW- NO QUESTION IS STUPID AT THIS POINT!!! If you want to ask about the injections, sides, moods, workout, whatever, go for it. Either in this thread or PM. I had a lot of help from a lot of really smart guys on here.
    Ok, maybe stupid questions do exist, but use your best judgement
    Im mos def one of the smart guys that helped you










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    woot woot....

    I agree but we be edjamacated and shee-ot
    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/193259-begins-morry-vs.html
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    Weight: 206 (WTF?!?!) measured 3 times. Whatever, prob was holdin on to some water, I am taking creatine and my weekend wasn't as clean as normal so maybe just that and sodium.

    Today was chest day. 2 circuits, the rest super sets. Chest/Abs.

    Quad is still a little sore but didn't effect my workout or my day. I did find myself favoring my left as I ran up stairs, but that's to be expected.

    I've got a bit more endurance. I know prop "kicks in" pretty damn fast, but I didn't think this fast, maybe I'm just imagining things, but all my lifts I was able to add a rep to or more. I didn't add any weight though, so maybe I just go my head right when I'm working out.

    Either way, I'm stoked. Tomorrow is DL day and I pin Test P first thing in the morning. I'm going to pin the other quad but I know it is going to make that muscle get stiff before I workout in the afternoon. I don't want to wait bc I want the test p to go ahead and do it's thing for 10 hours before I workout. I dunno. I'm not waiting, it is just pain, eff that crap

    My nephew came in there (he is 7) while I was working out and said "My muscles won't ever be that big", I'm sitting there thinkin, damn kid, a couple bottles of some good ole test and some good training.....wait, this is my first injectable, my size is due to oral cycles and hard work.....there is hope for this little guy. Nah, just made me laugh, sweet kid.
    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    the soreness will go away after u pin the same sight several times- my quads and glutes arent sore at all nemore

    i remember the first time i pinned 2ml deca in my glute


    omg it hurt for like 4 days lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
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    Welcome aboard bro!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/193259-begins-morry-vs.html
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    Day 3

    Today is Back and Shoulders.

    I pinned 1ml of test P this morning in my left quad. Painless as the last one was. I followed the exact same procedure. No problems whatsoever.

    My right quad is still a little sore, maybe a bit mor than yesterday, but I'm thinking today it will start feeling more like normal. I hope so bc I have 2ml to pin Frdiay.

    Are there any reports of localized growth for the inject site for test?
    I'm thinking bc the esters that it just goes into the blood, but are there any trace amounts that stay in the muscles injected?
    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/193259-begins-morry-vs.html
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    i dont think test has a localized effect- least ive never heard of it


    ur quads will be sore for 2-4 days maybe longer the first 2-4 times u pin then theyh wont hurt at all

    least this is my experience


    meh im about to pin 1ml test and 1ml deca and eat 300 mg dbol

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    good luck buddy..this your first? b following, looks pretty good.. pretty cautious. dont think u need the hcg for that cycle, i only ever even consider it if am doing a lonnnnnggg deca cycle, letro..only use if u need to..i wudnt just run it cus i have it, only if its needed, u need some estro. pct is a lifetime too...nolva at 20 does the job required as efficient as nolva at 40..so i would just do 20/20/10/10/5...the var would be great to throw in .. just me tho..good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by getbig87 View Post
    good luck buddy..this your first? b following, looks pretty good.. pretty cautious. dont think u need the hcg for that cycle, i only ever even consider it if am doing a lonnnnnggg deca cycle, letro..only use if u need to..i wudnt just run it cus i have it, only if its needed, u need some estro. pct is a lifetime too...nolva at 20 does the job required as efficient as nolva at 40..so i would just do 20/20/10/10/5...the var would be great to throw in .. just me tho..good luck
    Yup this is my first. I have a link to my PCT in the top but I'm open to suggestions. I think you are exactly right, dosing Tamox at 40 or 60 just kills libido and get estrogen levels way too high.

    I'm workin on possibly gettin some Var, another good suggestion.

    I'm glad you are here, welcome to my cycle!
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    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernCharm View Post
    this better be good...


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    Have more faith my fellow meathead brotherin. I may not have a ton of post but I've been around for a while. I'll kill this cycle and will post some good results. And I'll pst pics every week. Stay tuned and lend your knowledge.

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    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    Day 3 workout

    Weight 208 -4lbs


    There is no way this is in my head anymore, no way. Maybe others can chime in, but my skin is already more oily, no achne just a little more oily I've noticed. My face had been really dry weeks back, but anytime I start hittin the weights hard, this starts a little, but this is quicker than I expected. I think I have enough muscle memory that I won't say I feel a ton stronger, but I am def puttin up weight I wasn't 3 weeks back, but I was in a cut then. My endurance is stupid crazy. I love it and I actually added sets to a circuit. It hurt so freaking good.....
    This is going to get very, very interesting over the next 11 weeks or so.

    I might be getting some Var, not sure yet. I'll decide in a weeks time.

    I do have a side question for those subbed. I always have DL barefoot. Always. Never with shoes (I also run barefoot too or I wear my vibrams). I workout in a basement and it is about 30 degrees or cooler down there but after a couple sets I'm freaking sweating my balls off. Anyhow, when I DL I have had my big toe one time and my middle toe opposite foot another time lose all color and go numb. When I notice it (bc it feels like dead weight), I stop, go up stairs and run my toe under warm water for 1 or 2 min and the color and feeling comes back. Then I finish my workout no problem. I read about what could be some of the causes, but everything I read said if it only happens when you are in extreme cold or weird circumstances (extreme cold while repping 345 on deadlift 8 times) then not to worry as long as the color comes back pretty quick, which it does. I have always had cold feet and the first time this happened I started wearing socks when I workout tokeep my feet warmer and I ddn't have the problem again till tonight.
    Should I just bee keeping an eye on it and making sure when a toe goes numb I just warm it back up? It NEVER does this unles I'm deadlifing really heavy.

    Anybody else have this problem? I can't really go see a doc right now bc if he wants to take bloods......yeah, don't want that in my medical history.
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    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    sounds like circulation problems bro...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernCharm View Post
    sounds like circulation problems bro...
    I'm thinking the same thing and I know cold doesn't promote circulation. This is the first winter I've worked out in a cold, cold area. This never happened during the summer and I was stronger then (only 345 x 12 or 15 can't remember).

    I just don't want to "kill" one of my toes...
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    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwitt View Post
    I'm in


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    Welcome bro!
    Quote Originally Posted by swollen87 View Post
    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hcc5881 View Post
    I'm in! Kill it bro!
    Welcome! Legs today....I think....I might rest, but I feel recovered enough to do a widow makers but keep most everything light for the day.



    I'm thinkin I need to only DL heavy once a week....maybe that will help my whole toe thing. Too much strain on the CNS?
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    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    Yeah you shouldnt deadlift heavy more than once a week.. ever..

    That's a lot of body parts being used for one lift. Just my opinion
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    Pin super slow,

    Assuming gear is good the pain is a result of the muscle swelling as you inject into it, inject to fast and the muscle expands creating that soreness.... I try to take a full one minute per cc injected i know that might seem a bit much but i promise ull never feel any real pain.... I pin 3 1/2 cc regularly and never a problem talking of which time to go prick myself

    I get Dr prescribed TRT and this was the first thing the good old Doc told and aspirate of course i think TG's wife is a nurse and he will back me up on this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernCharm View Post
    Yeah you shouldnt deadlift heavy more than once a week.. ever..

    That's a lot of body parts being used for one lift. Just my opinion
    guess I'm the exception. I DL heavy every week

    Take as much time pinning as edwitt said, but also take your time out of the injection site too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    guess I'm the exception. I DL heavy every week

    Take as much time pinning as edwitt said, but also take your time out of the injection site too.
    DL heavy once ore twice a week? Remember I'm on a 3day split, so it is twice a week for me now.

    I don't heavy squat twice bc I kept hurting my back, now it is widow makers on the light days (yay!), then heavy squats
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    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    Day 4

    Weight 208

    Legs/Arms

    Bc my split, my DL days and Squats will rotate from heavy to light (widow makers on leg days, light but slow, slow DL on back day). I'm hoping this will pull the strain off my CNS and maybe stop making my toes go numb (although it doesn't do it when I squat, but when i squatted heavy 2 times a week, I usually pulled a back muscle).

    First pin site feels gtg, second a little sore, but no big deal at all.
    Pin 2ml tomorrow, test p and test e, right quad again then it is chest and abs. My endurance is just getting better and better. It's 30 degrees where I workout and I'm dripping sweat in about 5 min of working out (widow makers can do that to you). The first couple sets do suck bc I'm freezing in just workout shorts and socks (I know....socks.....gay....but my feet get cold and I don't like to workout with shoes, I feel like I am stronger with out them, I don't even squat with shoes)

    I'm stronger than I was on my cut, but that has to do with diet more than the test at this early stage (IMO). I've been adding to my calories and will continue to do so, but I wanted to ramp them up bc I am coming out of a cut. i have 40 lbs of WPI protein coming to me tomorrow so I will have some in the middle of meals while I'm stuck at work. this has worked well for me in the past. i expect to get some great results with my diet. Time will tell....


    And it looks like Anavar is going to get tossed in from week 5-12. Still tossing the idea around, but it seems like I am really leaning this direction.

    Will post how the pin goes in th morning. I haven't had any drastic change in mood at all. I feel pretty good most the time but I always do when I'm killin the weights. I can def tell I'm "on" something (mainly because how much more intense the workout is going), but I think the effects have jsut begun to manifest themselves.

    I appreciate all the suggestions, comments, and for following along. I'm glad I got a group ouf you pushing me along and giving me advice.

    I did order my last pins, decided on 25g1inch3cc, I used em a couple times and I love em. No pain and very little wait to pin, maybe a min or so per ML

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    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    great stuff here morry and I second squating with no shoes it just feels so right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edwitt View Post
    Pin super slow,

    Assuming gear is good the pain is a result of the muscle swelling as you inject into it, inject to fast and the muscle expands creating that soreness.... I try to take a full one minute per cc injected i know that might seem a bit much but i promise ull never feel any real pain.... I pin 3 1/2 cc regularly and never a problem talking of which time to go prick myself

    I get Dr prescribed TRT and this was the first thing the good old Doc told and aspirate of course i think TG's wife is a nurse and he will back me up on this one
    Correct. My wife ( a nurse) gives me my injections and she takes a good long while to inject. About the amount of time that you outlined. 1 minute per each ML.

    I also place a hot wet wash cloth on the injection site prior to injection. And I place the barrel of the syringe under some hot running water for a minute or so.
    This helps to thin the oil out especially during these cold winter months.
    And after the injection, I have her to massage the area for a few minutes to help spread the oil around the area.

    Guys are getting lumps, swelling, inflammation, and pain from injecting too damn fast!! What's their hurry anyway?
    When you just fire away and squirt it in there, it remains in a small confined area and doesn't disperse properly into the outlying muscle tissues. This is what causes most of the lumps we read about. It's not an abcess......it's ignorance!! LOL

    If you still experience some soreness a day or so later, place a heating pad over the site. I've never had to do this but I've heard that it helps.

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    I may be a little to late on this advice but I recommend exemestane or something like aromasin as your AI. Letro is Terrible on lipid values (yes with a capitol T) so get your essentials in. Also, around my parts it has been known to cause Limp D for the duration of its cycle due to it totally crushing estro
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    +1 squatting with no shoes.. makes you stay on your heels

    +1 for pinning slow. i pin with a 23g now because it flows easier, but its just less tension in the barrel, I dont pin FASTER because Im using a bigger guage. Plus I dont like thnking that a 25g is gonna snap off inside me lol

    +1 I have heard the same about letro. Have not used letro, but have it on hand. Have used adex with little effect on my libido, and formestane with a slight increase in libido.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drchildress View Post
    I may be a little to late on this advice but I recommend exemestane or something like aromasin as your AI. Letro is Terrible on lipid values (yes with a capitol T) so get your essentials in. Also, around my parts it has been known to cause Limp D for the duration of its cycle due to it totally crushing estro
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernCharm View Post
    I have heard the same about letro. Have not used letro, but have it on hand. Have used adex with little effect on my libido, and formestane with a slight increase in libido.
    (1.) Concerning lipids: Yes and no. It's not clear cut black and white. Lipid values differ with each individual using Letro. This will be in part due to diet and not the Letro's fault alone.

    Letrozole (Femara)Žs effects on serum lipids (cholesterol, both HDL and LDL) are, in the words of one researcher: "inconsistent. " Clearly, however, youŽll eventually suffer an impaired lipid profile and immune system if you keep your estrogen levels too low for too long. Your sex drive will also probably suffer from extraordinarily low levels of estrogen present.


    (2.) Concerning Limp Dick: I feel this is incorrect. It may lower libido or sex drive but not performance. Big difference. Low libido means you just don't have that overwhelming desire to have sex, It doesn't mean you can't get an erection.

    On a personal note, I've been using Letrozole for over 5 weeks now with no bad sides at all. I'm using .81 mgs. E3D which equates to just a little over .27 mgs each day. I have 2.5 mg tabs and I'm splitting them into quarters and thereby using up 1 whole tab every 8 days.

    At this low dosage, I'm seeing only good results in keeping estro sides at bay. No bloating even though I'm on over a gram of Test per week. I'm lean, dry, and hard as nails. My joints haven't dried out and started creaking on me yet. But then again, I do take 12 grams of fish oil per day. This helps to keep the joints lubed up and ready for heavy ass weights.

    And I have absolutely NO worries about "limp noodle" or performance. I take Viagra to avert any such occurences. ha ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernCharm View Post
    damn TG way to steal my thunder... LOL get it?
    Got it. LOL

    Letro doesn't deserve the bad rap it receives. It's the choice of many bodybuilders especially during contest prep. It will really dry you out and give the lean, hard, dense appearance to the muscles.

    I don't recommend it as a long-term AI. But I got some on the cheap and decided to give it a go. I'll probably stay on for another 3 weeks or so which will give me an 8 week run of it. Then I'm gonna switch over to A-Dex at a low dose of .25 mgs. per day. Maybe even EOD since I'll be going back into "cruise" control with low doses of Test-Cyp each week. Probably 300 mgs. of Cypionate each week..........maybe a little more......

    That's how Thunder rolls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Heating pad or cutting out your vagina is fine
    My vagina already fell out, LOL.


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