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  1.  12-30-2010  06:46 PM
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    shelf life??


    my buddy has a bottle that was mixed, 1/2 bottle is test enth and 1/2 liquid winny from 2-3 years ago. We drew a lil out and it seems to be legit in color and viscosity but didnt try it. Any thoughts?? Is this safe??



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    Naw dude you don't want to use that. Send it to my house and I'll get rid of it for you.

    JP - it should be fine. Any degradation might reduce potency but wont form deleterious biproducts.
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    That seems like a strange thing to do, mixing water with oil. I'd worry about the size of the Stanzabol crystals after all this time. Plus, how do you draw it? Unless the winny was suspended in oil, which I had never seen. It may not have formed deleterious biproducts, whatever that means, but what do you do, shake it and hope to grab some crystals while they're in the oil?

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    Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post
    That seems like a strange thing to do, mixing water with oil. I'd worry about the size of the Stanzabol crystals after all this time. Plus, how do you draw it? Unless the winny was suspended in oil, which I had never seen. It may not have formed deleterious biproducts, whatever that means, but what do you do, shake it and hope to grab some crystals while they're in the oil?
    lol - hold it - i thot the OP had 1/2 a bottle of test e and 1/2 a bottle of winny. OP, can you clear this up? I don't think the two would mix, the winny would sit on top the test e, or vice versa probably.
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    Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    lol - hold it - i thot the OP had 1/2 a bottle of test e and 1/2 a bottle of winny. OP, can you clear this up? I don't think the two would mix, the winny would sit on top the test e, or vice versa probably.
    Your post is making no sense you just said the same thing twice. You thought op said winny but winny won't mix??

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    Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    lol - hold it - i thot the OP had 1/2 a bottle of test e and 1/2 a bottle of winny. OP, can you clear this up? I don't think the two would mix, the winny would sit on top the test e, or vice versa probably.
    This is what concerned me, "...my buddy has a bottle that was mixed..."
    Yes, OP, please cleart this up.

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    Never mind i get it now. Yoh thought he had two seperate half bottles. You didn'f see the mixed part. lol

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    Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post
    This is what concerned me, "...my buddy has a bottle that was mixed..."
    Yes, OP, please cleart this up.
    i think he means he has two bottles, each half full, that have been reconstituted from powder. Like powdered test e "mixed" with solvent (i.e. benzobenzoate, benzoic acid, and oil) and powdered winny "mixed" with BA water. Ive never seen powdered winny tho.
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  9.  12-31-2010  03:37 PM
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    Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post
    That seems like a strange thing to do, mixing water with oil. I'd worry about the size of the Stanzabol crystals after all this time. Plus, how do you draw it? Unless the winny was suspended in oil, which I had never seen. It may not have formed deleterious biproducts, whatever that means, but what do you do, shake it and hope to grab some crystals while they're in the oil?
    Ive mixed suspension and tren into the same syringe but never in the same bottle.

    The whole "Never mix oils with waters" is a myth. Works just fine.

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    Originally Posted by KBD View Post
    Ive mixed suspension and tren into the same syringe but never in the same bottle.

    The whole "Never mix oils with waters" is a myth. Works just fine.
    In a syringe is totally different. I do it all the time too. But mixing oil base with water base in the same bottle is just stupid.

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    Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post
    In a syringe is totally different. I do it all the time too. But mixing oil base with water base in the same bottle is just stupid.
    Yeah thats something i wouldnt do lol.

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    Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post
    In a syringe is totally different. I do it all the time too. But mixing oil base with water base in the same bottle is just stupid.
    Agreed. Same syringe is fine because the whole contents of the syringe end up in your body. But if you mix in a vial and then take 1mL out of the bottle, for example, you don't know if you are getting 1mL test e, 1mL winny, 0.5mL test e and 0.5mL winny, 0.76mL test e and 0.24mL winny, etc., etc.

    I still think the OP is referring to TWO SEPARATE bottles, each half full and when we refers to them as mixed he means theyre in solution, as opposed to solid powders.
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    I don't know fellas. Looks like he's saying one bottle mixed with half test and half winney. Sounds crazy but isn't there winney suspended in oil. I think it's very difficult to do but I thought I had recently seen it. Definitely won't be my next homebrew (not that I would do something illegal).

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    Originally Posted by 2res4 View Post
    isn't there winney suspended in oil
    no. its insoluble in oil.
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    Originally Posted by CrazyChemist View Post
    no. its insoluble in oil.
    Stanzabol doesn't dissolve in water either, but I guess soluble is not the same as dissolve, is it?

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    Originally Posted by DetroitHammer View Post
    Stanzabol doesn't dissolve in water either, but I guess soluble is not the same as dissolve, is it?
    Good point. Yes, dissolved=soluble. Anyway, Stanozolol is only available as a water based suspension.
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    i'm the OP fellas ... it is indeed one bottle that is composed of winny and enth with one half of the contents being winny the other half enth. It's crazy to see the difference in the separation in color and thickness when the bottle is settled, but we fig if we shake it up real good you probably get close to half and half in each cc drawn. It feels reckless, dangerous, and stupid ... but my trainin partner n i ran outta gear halfway thru a cycle cuz we lost our source (idk who the bigger dumbass is, him or us), and we just wanted to finish up strong...thoughts? comments? abuse? lol

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    ps is it a no-no to ask if a certain price for a certain product is ridiculously high (NOT mentioning any source information, just a going rate question among those in the know)?

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    Originally Posted by EDizzle View Post
    i'm the OP fellas ... it is indeed one bottle that is composed of winny and enth with one half of the contents being winny the other half enth. It's crazy to see the difference in the separation in color and thickness when the bottle is settled, but we fig if we shake it up real good you probably get close to half and half in each cc drawn. It feels reckless, dangerous, and stupid ... but my trainin partner n i ran outta gear halfway thru a cycle cuz we lost our source (idk who the bigger dumbass is, him or us), and we just wanted to finish up strong...thoughts? comments? abuse? lol
    well to test your theory, mix the bottle, draw a cc, then set the syringe upright and let it settle - do you see ~0.5/0.5? If not I just worry about the fluctuation in your levels of the different compounds. I actually don;t know about switching between winny and test e, idk how that would fly. As far as finishing the cycle - what were you on, how much and how long? Whats ur pct? I was under the impression you had this lying around from a long time ago?

    Originally Posted by EDizzle View Post
    ps is it a no-no to ask if a certain price for a certain product is ridiculously high (NOT mentioning any source information, just a going rate question among those in the know)?
    No you can ask about pricing but not sources.
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    we were takin 500 mg test e for ~5 wks but lost source. This was sittin around on a shelf in my buddy's closet for awhile. we're worried we wont find any other source we're willin to trust so we were thinkin about doin this. Yea i will do that test and let you know. Makes sense it wouldnt be half'n'half. Personally i dont like this whole idea, seems like going into a war w an eye patch on one eye but hey. Rooster Cogburn pulled it off in True Grit right. (The Duke of course, not wannabe Jeff Bridges) We may not even use it, but seems like a crime to toss it too.

    pct is torem and clomid.

    pricing - is $400 for a ten cc vial of test-e too much? and a cc would be 250 mL correct? The idea would be a half cc, twice a week, but if that equals out to 250 mL/wk that seems too little to really give the effect of fantastic gains..then i'd have to get 2 vials, but no way am i spendin 800 beans...

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