I started my first cycle of test e 1 1/2 weeks ago. I was told it would take about 2 weeks to actually notice anything. Is this correct? I am doing 500 every mon morning/thurs night to balance out levels throughout the week.
I hope so, I havent pinned test yet, but I know a gram of test a week is pushing it. Thats pro BBing style. Or pro wrestler, give or take. lol.i think he really meant 500 a week split like that
Everyone is different. I made very little gains on 700mg of prop a week which is more equivalent to 750 enanthate. Next cycle i'm going well over 1g a week. I have also done 525 a week which wasn't real noticable because the main effect from test is increased libido and the 19-nor I was on crushed my libido nonetheless.I hope so, I havent pinned test yet, but I know a gram of test a week is pushing it. Thats pro BBing style. Or pro wrestler, give or take. lol.
Then again, to each their own.
wow! But you are already well built.Everyone is different. I made very little gains on 700mg of prop a week which is more equivalent to 750 enanthate. Next cycle i'm going well over 1g a week. I have also done 525 a week which wasn't real noticable because the main effect from test is increased libido and the 19-nor I was on crushed my libido nonetheless.
I am really puzzled why people will push the doses on orals but not so much on injectables. I can understand if you're getting sides from it but what sides from test aren't solved with a little AI?
Personally I think i'll need to go over 1g to make some better gains off of it
As far as "pushing it" or pushing the amounts of oil that pro bodybuilders do, you are talking several grams a week, not 1.
On my next cycle i'm going to start my test at 750, then work up over a gram and report how it goes at different doses.
Everyone is different. I made very little gains on 700mg of prop a week which is more equivalent to 750 enanthate. Next cycle i'm going well over 1g a week. I have also done 525 a week which wasn't real noticable because the main effect from test is increased libido and the 19-nor I was on crushed my libido nonetheless.
I am really puzzled why people will push the doses on orals but not so much on injectables. I can understand if you're getting sides from it but what sides from test aren't solved with a little AI?
Personally I think i'll need to go over 1g to make some better gains off of it
As far as "pushing it" or pushing the amounts of oil that pro bodybuilders do, you are talking several grams a week, not 1.
On my next cycle i'm going to start my test at 750, then work up over a gram and report how it goes at different doses.
It's not that i'm so advanced that I couldn't gain on test, it's that my response to it was weak. In 6 weeks at 100mg ed i gained not even 2 pounds and very minor strength. My workouts were barely effected. It felt like natural lifting, but my strength increases came on slightly faster than usual. The main reason I knew it was working is because it made me ridiculously horny and i got sore nips.wow! But you are already well built.
I couldnt imagine how adverse 2-3 grams of test must be. Though I am sure you have to feel like some kind of God. Dang. Thanks for the info. Always heard some people went over 2 in pro BBing, but man. But I guess if muscle is your livelyhood.
I always wonder if I have low T.
I was going to say something to this, but f*ck it why bother, he can google.Hell, I would rather do pure injectables and preserve my liver :cheers:
2-5 weeks man usually more around 2-4 Just keep on trucking and it will kick in soon enough!I started my first cycle of test e 1 1/2 weeks ago. I was told it would take about 2 weeks to actually notice anything. Is this correct? I am doing 500 every mon morning/thurs night to balance out levels throughout the week.
Lol at this. Some noob got ultra jacked. Do they even produce enanthate lower than 200mg/ml? You ever see how much of those gains he kept?When I think of 1g of test I think of insane libido and a decent rate of gains, where's the grief come into it?
You guys are all crazy
I read about one guy, thought his enanthate was 100mg/mL or something, did 10mL a week, thought it was 1g, turned out it was 2.5g. Made ridiculous gains, I think it was 185 -> 225 and ridiculous strength, didn't even realize he was dosing it so high until it was over and he realized his enanthate was 250mg/mL. Wasn't any grief there.
I'm not trying to advocate excessive amounts of test but I fail to see the danger in going over the magical arbitrary 500mg/week
Seems like an "odd" mistake..lol Maybe he thought it was test p?Lol at this. Some noob got ultra jacked. Do they even produce enanthate lower than 200mg/ml? You ever see how much of those gains he kept?
Familiar with front loading, always looked at it more towards the esther side vs. the concerntration side it seems. That would make sense then with the spike of hormone/blood levelA higher dose should make it kick in faster though Wolver, have you heard of a frontload?
The ester has a long half life yes, you pin and it takes a few days before the levels spike and then they decline. You keep pinning and it spikes up a little higher each time until you notice it. With a higher dose you'll increase the concentration more rapidly and it'll kick in faster.
ya no doubt, im pretty sure he doesn't stick to 4 week cycles with the halo and when he isn't on that it's drol or var occasionally dbol. and ya he pins multiple times daily to keep up with all the oils. i still don't understand how he was able to pin 300mg a day of tren acetate along with everything else he was runnning. :wtf1: after being around this guy and seeing the abuse he has put his body through for over a decade, i have no worries about running normal cycles now occasionally and not worried about liver damage like i was before. not saying im going to run orals for extended periods of time or anything like that, just saying that i have no worries about running the average cycle.... something like test 1-14 deca 1-12 and dbol 1-6.2.1g of tren, most people can't even run that. So this guy is constantly huge ripped and stupidly-strong? But i'm curious how people get away with running orals for a long period of time, 30mg of halo, you can't keep that up very long, does he do 4 week cycles? I was just reading about crazy cycles and I saw one guy doing 200mg abombs and 70mg of Dbol daily for extended periods along with so many injectables he had to pin 3x a day. I don't even know how they handle it all...
Is this guy at least gigantic?I'm with unreal... my first injectable cycle i was doing 600mg a week test e. only real difference i felt was a better pump when lifting and a little more horny. didn't really make gains like i thought i would. A gram a week isn't bad as long as precautionary steps are in place. I know a guy that has been running gear continuously for the past 15 years at very high doses and the only problem he has now is high blood pressure.... granted none of us want that, but this guy continuosly runs multiple grams a week then might go to just a gram of test plus his growth for a month maybe two. then it's back to the 3-4 gram range. hell when i met the guy this is what he was currently running, 2 grams test e, 700mg test p, 2100mg tren acetate, and 30mg halotestin daily... plus his 6-8iu of growth each day.
I know he is rich....Is this guy at least gigantic?
you would want to do 250 every 3.5 days.....to keep levels even. That is pretty standard.also 4th question can i inject 500mg today and 250 on thrusday?
first week 1.0-1.5g of test E or CI have a question that is sort of related. Since Test E takes a couple of weeks to kick in, I've heard of people running Prop or Suspension for the first few weeks in order to get faster results and than switch just to Test E. How would you go about dosing this?
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