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  1. Whats your BF%, just wondering.


  2. guys I was joking about the omnivol/havok ect... I would never run that stuff.I gained a lot of muscle on this bulk and today is my last day on clomid.

    im at around 20% fat now and starting a cut for the next few weeks,I just started eca yesterday and will run that for 3 weeks and then maybe jump on winny right before summer starts.

    Everyone I work with now wants to use dbols lol

    I dont want to say what I gained because there are a lot of haters on here but I went from 225 to 275 on my bench.I just hope I can keep it.Now going to the gym is like going to hell,the pumps are gone and it sux ass.
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  3. try takin no shotgun it gives good pumps. i always use nitric oxide supps pn pct to give me a "will" to go to gym since DS pumps r soo freakin nice

  4. Just another heads up about the site injecting thing:

    Pharmacokinetics and Pharmacodynamics of Nandrolone Esters in Oil Vehicle: Effects of Ester, Injection Site and Injection Volume1
    Charles F. Minto, Christopher Howe, Susan Wishart, Ann J. Conway and David J. Handelsman

    J Pharmacol Exp Ther (1997) vol. 281 (1) pp. 93-102.

    We studied healthy men who underwent blood sampling for plasma nandrolone, testosterone and inhibin measurements before and for 32 days after a single i.m. injection of 100 mg of nandrolone ester in arachis oil. Twenty-three men were randomized into groups receiving nandrolone phenylpropionate (group 1, n = 7) or nandrolone decanoate (group 2, n = 6) injected into the gluteal muscle in 4 ml of arachis oil vehicle or nandrolone decanoate in 1 ml of arachis oil vehicle injected into either the gluteal (group 3, n = 5) or deltoid (group 4, n = 5) muscles. Plasma nandrolone, testosterone and inhibin concentrations were analyzed by a mixed-effects indirect response model. Plasma nandrolone concentrations were influenced (P < .001) by different esters and injection sites, with higher and earlier peaks with the phenylpropionate ester, compared with the decanoate ester. After nandrolone decanoate injection, the highest bioavailability and peak nandrolone levels were observed with the 1-ml gluteal injection. Plasma testosterone concentrations were also influenced (P < .001) by the ester and injection site, with the most rapid, but briefest, suppression being due to the phenylpropionate ester, whereas the most sustained suppression was achieved with the 1-ml gluteal injection. Plasma inhibin concentrations were also significantly influenced by injection volume and site, with the lowest nadir occurring after the nandrolone decanoate 1-ml gluteal injection. Thus, the bioavailability and physiological effects of a nandrolone ester in an oil vehicle are greatest when the ester is injected in a small (1 ml vs. 4 ml) volume and into the gluteal vs. deltoid muscle. We conclude that the side-chain ester and the injection site and volume influence the pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of nandrolone esters in an oil vehicle in men.


    In other words - small amount of steroid + LARGE muscle group = better bang for your buck.

  5. i did tren for my first ever for lack of sources, it slows your metabolism and i put it in my triceps because its naot a small muscle group for me and i got swolled in 8 days but all that strength is just hype from my experience i didnt like it, bigger wihtout badder sucks
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by johnny411 View Post
    i did tren for my first ever for lack of sources, it slows your metabolism and i put it in my triceps because its naot a small muscle group for me and i got swolled in 8 days but all that strength is just hype from my experience i didnt like it, bigger wihtout badder sucks
    Unless you're Ronnie Coleman's size (which of course you may be!) your tricep will still be an inferior injection site to the glutes or quads. An even at that size, the results will be better - certainly from a hormonal stability point of view - using the larger muscle groups than the arms.
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