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Anabolic diet/keto a good diet for me?

  1.  01-18-2008  09:55 AM
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    Anabolic diet/keto a good diet for me?


    My first priority is good health, heart health specifically. Do you feel either of these diets are healthy?


    I'm open to completely changing my views on what eating healthy means, its just a hell of a leap of faith to go from where I am to where these diets take you.



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    Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    My first priority is good health, heart health specifically. Do you feel either of these diets are healthy?


    I'm open to completely changing my views on what eating healthy means, its just a hell of a leap of faith to go from where I am to where these diets take you.
    pm me your e-mail and I'll try to send you the pdf file on these type of diets.
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    Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    pm me your e-mail and I'll try to send you the pdf file on these type of diets.
    I have the anabolic diet pdf.

    Do you have the metabolic diet or anabolic solution or even radical diet pdf's? If so, I'll trade something.

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    I started the anabolic diet yesterday. This could not be further removed from my natural diet (which had absolutely no meat in it, just fish). I hope it is as effective as they say.

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    Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    I started the anabolic diet yesterday. This could not be further removed from my natural diet (which had absolutely no meat in it, just fish). I hope it is as effective as they say.
    It's only as effective as you make it. If you follow the rules and tailor it to yourself, it will be effective.

    What is your goal?

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    ahh yes we've got some fresh blood.

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    Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    I started the anabolic diet yesterday. This could not be further removed from my natural diet (which had absolutely no meat in it, just fish). I hope it is as effective as they say.
    Seems like you're in the same position I was in, doing a complete switcharoo with you're diet. I came from the supposedly "heart healthy" recommendation of 60% carbs, 20% fat, 15% protein to the AD overnight. Welcome to the club!

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    Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    My first priority is good health, heart health specifically. Do you feel either of these diets are healthy?


    I'm open to completely changing my views on what eating healthy means, its just a hell of a leap of faith to go from where I am to where these diets take you.
    Ketogenic diet = very unhealthy. Anabolic Diet = very healthy lifestyle. Get your bloodwork done if you can. You should see your total cholesterol go down, HDL go up, LDL go down, and triglycerides should go down as well. If done properly, this diet is extremely heart healthy.
    Last edited by Botch; 01-21-2008 at 04:32 PM. Reason: adding more

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    I would be interested in a pdf on the Anabolic diet if someone wouldn't mind.

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    Come on guys show some lovin for Dr. Di Pasquale and fork out the cash for the book! It is certainly worth the money.

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    Originally Posted by Botch View Post
    Come on guys show some lovin for Dr. Di Pasquale and fork out the cash for the book! It is certainly worth the money.
    I'll pay him when I can afford it, lol.

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    Working well for me so far..

    I was at about 2months eating 3500-4k cals. I went from about 188 to 198, with minimal fat gain. When eating a higher carb diet, i gain fat much faster.

    Strength continued to climb throughout the 2 months.

    Best part is i FEEL much better..

    I used to walk around like a bloated mess. Gas all the time, etc.. Now i feel so much better, no gas, good energy.

    I will continue to eat like this for the rest of the winter/spring, then use the AD principles to cut.

    Good luck with everything.
    Last edited by Frank Reynolds; 01-21-2008 at 10:43 PM.

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    ok, it wants me to eat 180x18=3240, that is truly insane. I stuffed my face today and managed about 2900. In fact I'm trying to stuff down a protein shake with olive oil even though its bed time.

    I don't think 2900 is too far off, and according to one other website, its ok to be at BWx16 depending on body type. My net carbs were at 29, was happy I could fit in some blueberries post workout.


    Here is my breakdown:

    breakfast: 4 eggs with cheese and garlic

    lunch: 8 ounce steak with 2c broccoli

    post lunch: 1 bubba angus burger with cheddar

    preworkout: 2 ounces emmental cheese

    postworkout: low carb soy milk with whey, 1/2c blueberries, and cinnamon, and 2 Tblsp flax meal for fiber.

    dinner: 6oz salmon steak, 4cups spinach w/olive oil and vinegar, 2cups broccoli

    latenight: whey in water, with 1 tblspoon olive oil


    ---------grams------cals-----%total
    Total: --2890
    Fat:------208--------1841-----65%
    --Sat: ---62 ----------555------21%
    Carbs:---51-----------115------4%
    --Fiber:---22 -----------0-------0%
    Protein:---215-------860------31%




    Workout today was a little tough halfway through. I got light headed easier, and got really tired.

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    Originally Posted by Botch View Post
    Seems like you're in the same position I was in, doing a complete switcharoo with you're diet. I came from the supposedly "heart healthy" recommendation of 60% carbs, 20% fat, 15% protein to the AD overnight. Welcome to the club!
    Yes, this is a COMPLETE lifestyle change for me. I've been partial/full vegetarian for 7 years (partial meaning I started eating fish about 2 years ago). My friends are in shock...and so am I. I had no clue how to buy a steak...or any red meat for that matter, it was an interesting shopping trip

    After doing a lot of reading I decided my high carb lifestyle probably wasn't too healthy. The science behind this diet seems sound, and I'm going to go get blood tests done in about 2 months to keep up on things.


    I got my bloodwork done a few months ago, so I'm set. My tris were high, HDL slightly low, and LDL slightly high....everything this diet should correct!

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    Originally Posted by CryingEmo View Post
    It's only as effective as you make it. If you follow the rules and tailor it to yourself, it will be effective.

    What is your goal?
    Get healthier, leaner, and stronger.


    one good thing this diet will do is force me to cut out any weekday beers, which between that and pizza is my ultimate sin.

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    Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    Get healthier, leaner, and stronger.


    one good thing this diet will do is force me to cut out any weekday beers, which between that and pizza is my ultimate sin.
    No the best part is you DONT have to cut them out!!!! During your weekend carb load a slice of apizza and a few beers is OK. Just dont carry it overboard
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    i just had my first carbload this past weekend. i had oatmeal, bagels, ice cream, pizza, and muffins. i think i had a little too much carbs and smoothed out just a little. come this morning i look leaner then i did on friday. so if you do go a little overboard don't worry too much within a couple days you"ll have ur definition back. Now i know next weekend to lower my carb intake a little bit.

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    Should I push the carb load out to 12 days for the intro phase or just stick to the 5/2 program?

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    I Personally would stretch it to 12 days. I had no lethargy or experienced any carb depleted symptoms. I felt great. i had tons of energy

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    My appetite is up, I'm able to get over 3000 calories now. I was really cranky last night after the gym, my wife could do no right, not that she was doing anything right


    that was a joke...wife don't kill me.



    I'm having lots of dreams. I did a google search and it looks like that might be a part of the transition phase.


    My skin seems to be clearing up a lot. Way too early to call this one, but I'm crossing my fingers.



    I still haven't decided if I'm going to carb up this weekend or not. I'm starting to crave a beer, so I might hit some fruit and some homebrew saturday night. I might also just open a log.

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