Originally Posted by Alan Aragon
Aren't we all?Originally Posted by gnat1000
Can you see your abs at all? If you can't, I would recommend cutting first. If you're new to weight lifting, you may be one of the few lucky ones that can gain quite a bit of strength while losing fat.
Try about 2000 cals & 200g of protein a day for a couple weeks & see how you do. In the beginning you might not lose a lot of total weight so don't be too anal about what the scale says. You could be losing fat and gaining a little muscle at the same time (this is generally very hard for experienced non drug using lifters to do, which is why beginners have it easy). Take some tape measurements if you want, &/or some "before" pics w/ a digital camera.
If after a month or so you're tired of cutting & you want to add mass, go ahead and switch to a bulking diet. This is generally my take anyway. It's nearly impossible for experienced athletes to gain muscle on a caloric deficit, and also nearly impossible to lose fat on a caloric surplus (naturally). SO, simply use shorter cycles if you want to do both.
Nope, thats the sad part. I use to have a flat stomach, but you know how college can be. So I will work on cutting first. Since I am pretty much just starting then I will look bigger by just getting some tone.Originally Posted by Moyer
Thankyou very much.
In addition, if you live in a metropolitan area you may be able to find textbooks at your local city or county public library. The internet is good, but sometimes it entails *a lot* of searching to uncover the gems. A first year college nutrition text should suffice. I found the text listed below at a library. Not cheap to own, but inexpensive to borrow for a few weeks. It's an easy read, relatively speaking, and should get you down the path. But I think any introductory nutrition text should get you there.
[ame=http://www.amazon.com/Perspectives-Nutrition-Gordon-M-Wardlaw/dp/0073228060/sr=1-1/qid=1165868186/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-3454934-9217516?ie=UTF8&s=books]Amazon.com: Perspectives in Nutrition: Books: Gordon M. Wardlaw,Jeffrey Hampl[/ame]
No prob.Originally Posted by GO_OUTSIDE!
I just started nutritiondata.com and my girl started fitday.com. Wow! we consume alot of fat. I'm passing on the recomendation for these two sites, they were exactly what we needed to analyze our nutrition intake and find our starting point.Thanks for all the advice.
Now if we could just get the experts to all agree on one program for fat loss and muscle gain... GI, GL, nutrition timing...
I guess different people respond to different programs.