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I know my opinion but want to get some thoughts provoked. Also get a new prospective. So my questions is does it matter where you get your protein. Say 25g from steak vs 25g from plant source vs 25g form diary source. I don't mean overall nutrition but JUST THE PROTEIN of one vs the other.
 
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Won't make a huge difference
 
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Won't make a huge difference
This.

I would try to get different sources in though. Bioavailability will be different from different sources and differen sources also have different amino acid profiles.
 
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But does the different amino profiles really make a difference in anabolism?
 
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Another good example is a vegetarian who get 250g of protein worse off than a person who eats meat and gets 250g of protein if everything else is equal?
 
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But does the different amino profiles really make a difference in anabolism?
Not in the big picture
Eat quality sources of what you prefer and hit your protein totals

Some sources have higher leucine content which can arguably make a difference

But that's worrying too much
 
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If anyone wants to get crazy meticulous
 
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Haha that's cool i have never seen that chart.
 
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But does the different amino profiles really make a difference in anabolism?
No, but variety is still good. Different foods, not just protein sources, will contain different vitamins and minerals. One should look at varying food sources in that sense, not a what will it do to my physique.
 
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IMO red meat is best for recovery and growth but you cant eat that so many times everyday so you still end up with a variation of meats and fishes. I wouldn't personally rely of dairy, plants or even whey.
 
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I know my opinion but want to get some thoughts provoked. Also get a new prospective. So my questions is does it matter where you get your protein. Say 25g from steak vs 25g from plant source vs 25g form diary source. I don't mean overall nutrition but JUST THE PROTEIN of one vs the other.
I'd say animal protein should be the majority of you intake.
 

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I would say it matters if your diet isn't varied. 200 grams of protein from peanuts isnt gonna be as good as 200 grams from meat, just based on the bioavailability and amino acid composition. Or at least, that's what I believe...

If you get protein from many sources, you're probably fine.
 
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Not in the big picture
Eat quality sources of what you prefer and hit your protein totals

Some sources have higher leucine content which can arguably make a difference

But that's worrying too much
So 25g of soy is equivalent to 25g of whey?

I think you'll find there are better sources than others..
 

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It doesn't necessarily matter. But when you have steak vs plant protein you're looking at different types of protein. Steak is mainly casein protein, so if you're getting 25 g from steak and 25 g from a casein protein shake that doesn't matter because they are chemically the same exact thing.
 
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It doesn't necessarily matter. But when you have steak vs plant protein you're looking at different types of protein. Steak is mainly casein protein, so if you're getting 25 g from steak and 25 g from a casein protein shake that doesn't matter because they are chemically the same exact thing.
There is no casein in steak. That's a milk protein
 
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I meant to say whey and not casein Lol
Whey is also a milk protein ;)

Whey and casein make up the components of milk, however I doubt you will notice any difference between milk protein and beef in terms of effects on recovery, muscle growth etc. I do however disagree that all proteins are created equal as bioavailability and amino acid composition become problematic for plant based proteins
 

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I heard a blend is best for protein synthesis....whey, glycine and creatine ftw
 
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I heard a blend is best for protein synthesis....whey, glycine and creatine ftw
Milk FTW. Naturally blended ;)
 

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Whey is also a milk protein ;)

Whey and casein make up the components of milk, however I doubt you will notice any difference between milk protein and beef in terms of effects on recovery, muscle growth etc. I do however disagree that all proteins are created equal as bioavailability and amino acid composition become problematic for plant based proteins
They're not both milk protein.
 
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In before someone gets 300g of protein from soybeans! Lol
 
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I want to point out that all protein is not created equal. There are complete v.s. incomplete proteins in regards to amino acid profiles. If say you are a vegetarian bodybuilder than yes you would have to be careful as you wouldn't want your protein to all come from something like beans and rice since they are incomplete in their amino acids. Soy protein is a plant based protein that is complete, as well as quinoa.
Is all of this going to make a huge difference? F*** if I know I love my complete proteins
 
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Salmon is my favourite protein source! followed by chicken/duck, eggs, and beef/lamb/pork. I dont drink milk due to intolerance.

But yea, I love seafood :)
 

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In before someone gets 300g of protein from soybeans! Lol
That would be dumb. I'm smart so I get all my protein from peanuts.
1.5lbs of pb daily :)
 
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That would be dumb. I'm smart so I get all my protein from peanuts.
1.5lbs of pb daily :)
Must be a ton of fats! Lol! I get my protein from chicken! I eat 36oz of chicken daily! :)
 

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People count the protein from nut/nut butters?
 
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People count the protein from nut/nut butters?
Anyone using an app because its done for you

No reason not to regardless it adds up
 

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I was wrong about the sources of whey and casein, I did more in depth research and did realize that they are both meat based. But I am still with the mindset that whey is not as good as casein or a mixed protein powder.
 
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I was wrong about the sources of whey and casein, I did more in depth research and did realize that they are both meat based. But I am still with the mindset that whey is not as good as casein or a mixed protein powder.
You mean milk?
 

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Sorry, yes I meant to milk based not meat based Lol.
 
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this thread is no longer fun :(
 

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