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    Hey all just about to start my first cut in a week or so because its coming to the end of winter in Australia and gonna start warming up soon. Just wanting to know weather I will still continue to get gains during a cut or I shouldn't expect much change while cutting? Also I'm gonna start doing 20mins of cardio after my weight training should I wait till after the cardio to have my protein shake or have it right after weights while doing cardio? Any other tips you could give me or advice would be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyWazza View Post
    Hey all just about to start my first cut in a week or so because its coming to the end of winter in Australia and gonna start warming up soon. Just wanting to know weather I will still continue to get gains during a cut or I shouldn't expect much change while cutting? Also I'm gonna start doing 20mins of cardio after my weight training should I wait till after the cardio to have my protein shake or have it right after weights while doing cardio? Any other tips you could give me or advice would be great.
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    hey man I'm new to this forum thing so hope this works. your gains are def gonna be limited while cutting. don't rely too heavily on cardio but instead try to alter your diet, that it what is going to help you lose fat the most without eating into muscle. the best form of exercise for fat loss and muscle preservation is sprints excluding lifting weights. do around 8 sets of 10-15 second sprints with about 30 seconds active recovery and the weight will fly off you. i would stay clear of the cardio after weights. hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by julss90 View Post

    hey man I'm new to this forum thing so hope this works. your gains are def gonna be limited while cutting. don't rely too heavily on cardio but instead try to alter your diet, that it what is going to help you lose fat the most without eating into muscle. the best form of exercise for fat loss and muscle preservation is sprints excluding lifting weights. do around 8 sets of 10-15 second sprints with about 30 seconds active recovery and the weight will fly off you. i would stay clear of the cardio after weights. hope this helps
    Ok awesome thanks mate I've been told to eat a couple of hundred cals under my maintenance should I do this by keeping my protein up but dropping some of my carbs? I was gonna still eat carb for breakfast and lunch but that's all
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    300-500 calorie deficit per day is a good target range but you really have to know your body perfectly to execute that. you may reduce your calories by 500 and still be in a surplus and not drop weight. but yes in answer to your question, yes reduce your calories by a few hundred should be a good start. in regards to your carbs I would eat them post workout only but expect
    your strength to suffer. if you have carbs before you will help keep your strength in tact but will hinder fat loss since you have fuel other than fat to burn. do The sprints I was saying about before and eat carbs pre and post and you will still lose fat! believe me they are a miracle exercise routine
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    Quote Originally Posted by julss90 View Post
    300-500 calorie deficit per day is a good target range but you really have to know your body perfectly to execute that. you may reduce your calories by 500 and still be in a surplus and not drop weight. but yes in answer to your question, yes reduce your calories by a few hundred should be a good start. in regards to your carbs I would eat them post workout only but expect
    your strength to suffer. if you have carbs before you will help keep your strength in tact but will hinder fat loss since you have fuel other than fat to burn. do The sprints I was saying about before and eat carbs pre and post and you will still lose fat! believe me they are a miracle exercise routine
    Ahh ok maybe I might force myself to get up earlier and do those sprints before breakfast and keep my weight training to afternoons after work. I haven't put on to much fat while bulking so hopefully it comes off pretty easy with those sprints and I'm gonna use interval training on the rowing machine apparently that's meant to be good for stripping fat as well
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    sprints is interval training. 15 seconds on, 30 off. I would lift weights first if I were you. sprints are very taxing on the body and I highly doubt you will be able to lift your normal weight if you do sprints prior in the same day. do weights in the morning and then sprints in the arvo but make sure you eat good carbs pre and post sprint session. good luck brother let me know how it goes
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    Quote Originally Posted by julss90 View Post
    sprints is interval training. 15 seconds on, 30 off. I would lift weights first if I were you. sprints are very taxing on the body and I highly doubt you will be able to lift your normal weight if you do sprints prior in the same day. do weights in the morning and then sprints in the arvo but make sure you eat good carbs pre and post sprint session. good luck brother let me know how it goes
    Ok cool thanks for your help mate I'm gonna take before and after cut photos and post em on the forum hoping for a decent result for the hard work I put in this year haha.
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    Are you looking to cut hard and fast? I ask because when I do things to get into contest prep, I do things in steps. So when I see things stall, I just add one more thing to keep me going. For instance, I will start with carb cycling. My high day starts at where my current bulking/maintenance diet is at. My low day will be comprised mostly of protein and fat, and postWO I will use iForce Isotean being low in carbs at only 3g and a whey isolate.

    Then when i see progress slowing down, I will add in some HIIT after training every other day for 15 min after my lifting session.

    When I see progress slow again, I will then add in a thermogenic such as iForce Dexaprine XR.

    This is what I have done to get ready for my last two contests. I have had great results doing things this way, but I also plan out my cut so I can take some time to get it right and not just make it a temporary fix.

    Hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyWazza View Post
    Hey all just about to start my first cut in a week or so because its coming to the end of winter in Australia and gonna start warming up soon. Just wanting to know weather I will still continue to get gains during a cut or I shouldn't expect much change while cutting? Also I'm gonna start doing 20mins of cardio after my weight training should I wait till after the cardio to have my protein shake or have it right after weights while doing cardio? Any other tips you could give me or advice would be great.
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    Once you start your cut you won't see to much gains if that. You will want to preserve all the gains you've acquired while on a cut. This is where yur diet comes into play. Right now I'm cutting for my first show and I am barely getting the minimum require calories for the day which I'm cutting at 3,000. I try to keep my protein high 230-300 grams and carbs around 300. I have my Isotean shake after my cardio. I train with weights first then cardio then AFTER cardio i'll consume my post workout. Post workout means that you are done doing whatever it is your doing at the gym. You can try a fat burner such as Dexaprine XR to increase the process but like I said in other posts, don't rely on just supplements to do the work. Training and diet should be the main focus. Good luck brother
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    Quote Originally Posted by veaderko View Post
    Are you looking to cut hard and fast? I ask because when I do things to get into contest prep, I do things in steps. So when I see things stall, I just add one more thing to keep me going. For instance, I will start with carb cycling. My high day starts at where my current bulking/maintenance diet is at. My low day will be comprised mostly of protein and fat, and postWO I will use iForce Isotean being low in carbs at only 3g and a whey isolate.

    Then when i see progress slowing down, I will add in some HIIT after training every other day for 15 min after my lifting session.

    When I see progress slow again, I will then add in a thermogenic such as iForce Dexaprine XR.

    This is what I have done to get ready for my last two contests. I have had great results doing things this way, but I also plan out my cut so I can take some time to get it right and not just make it a temporary fix.

    Hope this helps.
    I'm thinking I'll do it in steps like you've done I've left myself plenty of time so I might work my way into it. Thanks a lot this has been a big help
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimmyWazza View Post

    I'm thinking I'll do it in steps like you've done I've left myself plenty of time so I might work my way into it. Thanks a lot this has been a big help
    Happy to hear. Keep me informed on your progress. And questions just PM me :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by LivingStrongE View Post

    Once you start your cut you won't see to much gains if that. You will want to preserve all the gains you've acquired while on a cut. This is where yur diet comes into play. Right now I'm cutting for my first show and I am barely getting the minimum require calories for the day which I'm cutting at 3,000. I try to keep my protein high 230-300 grams and carbs around 300. I have my Isotean shake after my cardio. I train with weights first then cardio then AFTER cardio i'll consume my post workout. Post workout means that you are done doing whatever it is your doing at the gym. You can try a fat burner such as Dexaprine XR to increase the process but like I said in other posts, don't rely on just supplements to do the work. Training and diet should be the main focus. Good luck brother
    From using a calorie calculator I worked out my maintenance for myself at 82 kgs to be around 2800 so I've been bulking at about 3100 so should I aim for around 2600 with high protein and lower carb? And use something like dexaprine xr for help with lack of energy as well? I was told to throw l-carnitine in with every shake to burn fat as energy?
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    Pretty solid advice here to cut. I would add some cardio especially HIIT training into your workouts for some added fat loss. This will help you reach your target weight faster. I think you should really be hitting your goals soon. Good luck to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1 View Post
    Pretty solid advice here to cut. I would add some cardio especially HIIT training into your workouts for some added fat loss. This will help you reach your target weight faster. I think you should really be hitting your goals soon. Good luck to you.
    Thanks mate looking forward to seeing the results for my hard work this winter
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    Hey I'm just looking for some advice and criticism on my diet. I attached 3 pics of an average day of eating and what I ate. Thank you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicBuddy
    Hey I'm just looking for some advice and criticism on my diet. I attached 3 pics of an average day of eating and what I ate. Thank you!

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    Starting your own thread would be a good idea.
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    Definitely incorporate some HIIT for speedy weight loss along with some Dexaprine XR to make it burn even faster. It is all about caloric expenditure, just maintain a caloric deficit and you will be good. That can either entail increased caloric expenditure or decreased caloric intake.
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