Do you guys count your veggies and fiber as part of your carb intake? I'm curious as to why you do or don't.
Root veges yes, if other then no. Fibre isn't used by the body for energy so the energy content is very negligible.
Potatoes and Kumara/ sweet potato are root veges. If fibre is included as a part of the total then yeah you can do it that way.
I count everything, don't see why you wouldn't but some dont
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I only count starchy veggies. Green and leafy veggies aren't counted
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Basically any kind of green veggies. Your actually burning more calories than they contain trying to digest em so stack that plate with greens
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Yes we should count our carb intake definiteley.
There's no straight answer to this, because it depends on the purpose of the counting.Do you guys count your veggies and fiber as part of your carb intake? I'm curious as to why you do or don't.
Basically, if the goal is to stay under some extremely low carb threshold—if you're trying to put together a ketogenic diet, for instance—then, yes, you absolutely must take vegetables into account. Too many vegetables, like too many of X other carbohydrate food, will boot you out of ketosis.
In other cases, you can get away with ignoring most greens—NOT because they "have negative calories" or "burn more than they contain",*** but because people simply don't eat enough of them to add up to a non-negligible amount of food energy. For instance, even if you eat two pounds of spinach, that's only about 150 calories, with about 20g of protein and 20g of "net impact" (= non-fiber) carbs.
So, you can ignore them for the same reason you can ignore the $10 shipping cost on a $500 order of supplements. $10 is still $10, but, in relative terms, the difference is insignificant.
Still, you should check up on the foods you eat, because the dictum that "green vegetables are negligible" has its exceptions. For instance, 2 pounds of spinach is only 20g protein/20g non-fiber carbs/150 cals, but 2 pounds of kale—which doesn't seem that different from spinach—has 30g protein/80g non-fiber carbs/about 450 cals. So ignoring the kale, probably not such a hot idea.
***If you really want to exploit this whole principle, there's no need to f*** with celery or broccoli; just drink boatloads of ice-cold water. If you remember "specific heat" from high school chemistry, you'll know that the energy your body needs just to warm that water up to body temperature is a lot more than the energy used to digest celery.
Do the math. Q=m*c*ΔT. For every 1 liter of ice-cold water that your body has to warm up to body temp of 37ºC, that's (1000g)(1 cal/gºC)(37ºC) = 37 calories. Boom.
Drinking four liters (= about a gallon) of ice-cold water per day buys you 4 x 37 = 148 "free" calories a day, unless you are a hypothermic arctic reptile.
I don't count anything but protein and calories lightly. I don't eat anything but meats , fruits and veggies(no starches exempt occasional beans). No dairy either and it seems to working extremely well cutting fat. So whatever carbs I get are from fruits and vegetables and I try and make sure I get 1gm protein per lb body weight. I have one cheat day every 1-2 weeks where I eat whatever, however bad it is. After that I feel always make strength gains but I tend to burn out faster strength power wise but endurance is still good. I'm sure I would make better progress if I counted obsessively but Im doing great just listening to my body and keeping track in the back of my mind what I've eaten, eating clean and healthy and lifting as hard as I can plus some. I think the food counter apps are funny. Like really do you need that? Without technology you'd be fat because you can't watch what you eat better and be more educated about nutrition? Our culture has people so used to putting **** in thier bodies all the time that nobody naturally knows whats good for them. i eat what makes me feel best and healthiest and generally %99 of the time thats a very nutritous choice...When you smoke pot and post on forums you sometimes start having a conversation with your own post and get totally off topic. Sorry
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