1.5g protein/ lb of bodyweight too much?

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    1.5g protein/ lb of bodyweight too much?


    "A good rule of thumb for physique athletes is to consume about 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight, per day. This is enough to put most everyone in a positive nitrogen balance, even if training volume and intensity are high."

    I read this in an article on t nation. What are your thoughts on it?

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    Anything over 1g per lb of LBM should be just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cokeboyz
    "A good rule of thumb for physique athletes is to consume about 1.5 grams of protein per pound of body weight, per day. This is enough to put most everyone in a positive nitrogen balance, even if training volume and intensity are high."

    I read this in an article on t nation. What are your thoughts on it?
    It is true, but some people forget about the other macros: carbs and fats. You need all three, not just 1.5 g of protein / weight.. so take that with a grain of salt lol. If you're not gettin enough of the other two your body will start to use more of the protein for energy and other bodily functions instead of muscle building
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    Ok so I'm 175 how does 262g protein, 420g carbs and 163g fat sound?
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    Sounds fine if around 4200 calories is your goal.
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    You have to figure out what you need for your normal calorie requirements for the day if you're doing nothing. Then calories you need for a bulk. Typically people recommend 500-700 calories above maintenance for a lean bulk. Is say something like 15-17caloties per pound and measure results from there... If you're gaining too fast scale back calories... If not gaining add calories
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmftisftw
    You have to figure out what you need for your normal calorie requirements for the day if you're doing nothing. Then calories you need for a bulk. Typically people recommend 500-700 calories above maintenance for a lean bulk. Is say something like 15-17caloties per pound and measure results from there... If you're gaining too fast scale back calories... If not gaining add calories
    Yeah I think I'm a hardgainer. I tried 3200 and didn't see much results. I saw a lot more gains when I was eating like 4000 so I'm going back to that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cokeboyz

    Yeah I think I'm a hardgainer. I tried 3200 and didn't see much results. I saw a lot more gains when I was eating like 4000 so I'm going back to that
    Right, see its all about testing and see what works best for you!
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    How many times have you read in a fitness magazine or website that you should be loading up on protein in order to gain muscle mass and/​or lose weight? Do you swear by your daily protein shake to carry you through your workouts? Are you worried that if you ate only real, wholesome food throughout the day and missed your protein bar that you would feel incomplete and your waistline would start expanding?
    As I work with clients on weight loss and building lean muscle mass, I regularly come across many of the above attitudes about protein. We can’t read or talk enough about protein – how much we eat, how we like it prepared, which protein shake is the best, and how can we make it with just the right ingredients to make it delicious. Protein is all the rage in the fitness and weight loss worlds – and for good reason. It is one of the key nutrients in the diet. It helps us to move, build and repair muscle, stabilize blood sugar levels, and is a necessary component of enzymes and hormones in the body. But how much do you actually NEED? Keep in mind that any excess calories you consume will turn to fat. Therefore, if you take in more protein than your body needs, it will be stored as fat –defeating your weight loss and muscle-​​building efforts. Most people eat much more protein than their bodies require, even for an avid exerciser. So let’s take a minute to figure out how much you actually need.
    Step 1 – Take your weight in pounds and divide it by 2.2 (your weight in kilograms).
    Step 2 – Multiply your weight in kilograms by 0.8–1.2. This is the number of grams of protein your body requires each day. Non-​​exercisers or very casual exercisers can use the lower end of this range, while regular exercisers and athletes can use the higher end of the range. For example, a 150-​​pound person weighs 68 kilograms. 68 x 0.8 = 54.4 and 68 x 1.2 = 81.6, so the protein requirements are between 54–82 grams of protein per day.
    How do these numbers translate into real food? Every ounce of animal protein (fish, chicken, turkey, beef, etc) contains about 7 grams of protein. Therefore, 8 ounces of chicken has 56 grams of protein (8 ounces x 7 grams per ounce) and to reach the top end of the range above, 12 ounces of fish will do the trick (12 ounces x 7 grams per ounce). A typical restaurant portion of protein is at least 6–12 ounces, and most restaurant steaks are over 12 ounces! In addition, one egg has 7 grams, ¼ cup of cottage cheese has 7 grams, most 6-​​ounce yogurts have between 5–15 grams (greek yogurts tend to have more protein), and ½ cup of beans has 7 grams. Other foods like nuts, nut butters, seeds, and soy products are also good sources of protein. The moral of the story: If you include a healthy protein source at most of your meals and snacks, it is quite simple to reach your daily protein requirements with wholesome and nutritious foods! There can be a place for protein shakes and bars in a healthy diet, however they are usually in excess of our needs. Save some calories and cash by making wise food choices instead!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cokeboyz View Post
    Ok so I'm 175 how does 262g protein, 420g carbs and 163g fat sound?
    Like a carb paranoid, extra protein does not mean extra gains in muscle mass. This thread originated from people telling you you needed to check your nutrition...visit PubMed or use the Search button here...unless you are on AAS you won't even synthetize that much protein, and excess protein and fat (contrary to people's beliefs) does lead to fat gain and gaining fat does not always equate parallel gains in muscle mass. Up your carbs and stick to the essentials:

    Essential Macronutrient Values:
    -1g of protein per LB of body weight
    -.5g of fats per LB of bodyweight

    and carbs would make up the rest of your kCalories.
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    You really don't NEED over 1 gram/lb bw of protein but if you have to eat 4000+ cals like I do ( I am currently at 5000) it is hard NOT to eat more than 1 gram/lb just eating your usual diet. Also if you are on AAS then I would probably increase to 1.5 but natural 1 g/lb is fine.
  

  
 

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