plant based diet?

[whodey41]

My mom has a crazy amount of health issues, diabetes, high cholesterol, blood pressure is out of wack, gets crazy infections, and on top of all that has throat cancer. Heard of this plant based diet and was curious if anyone has any personal experience with it. The claims it makes seem unreal, but I'm thinking it may be worth a 3 month try for her just to see how it goes.

[SLW2]

You mean being a vegitarian or vegan? Or is there some other special diet with a name out there?

[whodey41]

I think it basically came down to vegan, just was called this on the site I was reading. A lot of the things I've read has pointed me to the movie forks over knives, will watch that tonight.

[AdiPure7]

Yes, I recommend reading the China Study. It basically says a whole food plant based diet is proven to inhibit cancer growth and prevent/treat against a lot of diseases. After reading it, you'll never want to eat meat or drink milk again! Lol

[whodey41]

Thanks I'll look for that book. I've been doing a lot of research on nutrition in correlation to health. It really is mind blowing what the claims are and the studys show. I'm sure a lot of it is biased and stretched to fit their theories, but it has to have some substance.

[whodey41]

Just ordered that book. Thanks for the suggestion!

[blueice]

You need to take care about what you eat in order to obtain the maximum nutrients from your food. Like for example, vegans eat foods from plant origins only, soya products are valuable sources of vitamins and minerals. Protein foods like eggs, wholegrain and soya beans are all excellent and inexpensive sources of protein. Get plenty of iron, so fill up on leafy green vegetables such as cabbage, dried apricots and broccoli. Zinc levels should also vary like sprinkle some wheatgerm and seeds over meals.

[STPlover]

China Study for the most part has been debunked and Forks over Knives is a biased take on the veggie/vegan lifestyle

[Jiigzz]

The china study is really bull****. Serious. Debunked ike crazy. Searcgh for threads on it, i know JudoJosh has posted on it. Completly ****.

[vassille]

My mom has a crazy amount of health issues, diabetes, high cholesterol, blood pressure is out of wack, gets crazy infections, and on top of all that has throat cancer. Heard of this plant based diet and was curious if anyone has any personal experience with it. The claims it makes seem unreal, but I'm thinking it may be worth a 3 month try for her just to see how it goes.

Diabetes, high cholesterol and high blood pressure are all possible high insulin complications. It would benefit her to go on a low carb diet. As for the throat cancer look into high dose vitamins such as vit D and boosting her immune system.

[vassille]

The china study is really bull****. Serious. Debunked ike crazy. Searcgh for threads on it, i know JudoJosh has posted on it. Completly ****.

+1. I wouldnt trust it either

[AdiPure7]

Debunked? What's the leading cause of of death in America? Heart disease. What country consumes the most from dairy/animal sources which are high in saturated fat? USA. I don't mean be blatant but it makes sense and there are a lot of studies that back it up.

[AdiPure7]

And a low carb diet? Yeah if you want to dehydrate yourself.

[Jiigzz]

Debunked? What's the leading cause of of death in America? Heart disease. What country consumes the most from dairy/animal sources which are high in saturated fat? USA. I don't mean be blatant but it makes sense and there are a lot of studies that back it up.

Yes, heavily debunked. In fact a member of this forum made a very long, in depth post on how it was debunked. How about you check out this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4

Its a snippet from a documentary called fat head.

[actionhero]

Debunked? What's the leading cause of of death in America? Heart disease. What country consumes the most from dairy/animal sources which are high in saturated fat? USA. I don't mean be blatant but it makes sense and there are a lot of studies that back it up.

India consumes the least amount of animal meat high in saturated fat. Guess what their number one cause of death is....wait for it.....heart disease.

India has the highest percentage of vegans & vegetarians in the entire world. Guess what their number one cause of death is....see above.

[AdiPure7]

There are a lot of other factors like exercise poverty and genetics that play a role. 1/3 of India's population is poor. Also their healthcare system is barely developed so the surgeries in the US that we take for granted are not utilized in India. Again consuming excess saturated fat raises your LDL levels(bad cholesterol) which forms a plaque in your arteries. Why do you think Every other American is overweight?

[ChainLink]

There are a lot of other factors like exercise poverty and genetics that play a role. 1/3 of India's population is poor. Also their healthcare system is barely developed so the surgeries in the US that we take for granted are not utilized in India. Again consuming excess saturated fat raises your LDL levels(bad cholesterol) which forms a plaque in your arteries. Why do you think Every other American is overweight?

Consistently elevated insulin secretion and the metabolic syndrome that follows.

[vassille]

And a low carb diet? Yeah if you want to dehydrate yourself.

You have a lot to learn my friend, I'd suggest do more reading and less posting for a while till you get you footing in the nutrition world more established.
I dont care how you personally eat but posting stuff that is not correct will get you nowhere fast. All these ppl who answered your posts are correct and in time if you bother to research rather than post diner tables conversations will come to a different result.
It also wont hurt to try some of the diets yourself and get blood work done which will help to clear up misconceptions. Many seasoned ppl on this board has done their research and had personal experiences to share. If you did that you wont be taking like you do.

[Jiigzz]

There are a lot of other factors like exercise poverty and genetics that play a role. 1/3 of India's population is poor. Also their healthcare system is barely developed so the surgeries in the US that we take for granted are not utilized in India. Again consuming excess saturated fat raises your LDL levels(bad cholesterol) which forms a plaque in your arteries. Why do you think Every other American is overweight?

2/3's or indias population are not poor by your reasoning. I know many people who have "excessive" fat intakes who are 5-10%bf who do not have clogged arteries etc.

Being FAT makes you at risk for heart disease, eating fat does not. The too are not directly correlated just because the words match. Find the linkage between saturated fats and testosterone and get your blood work done, for all you know, you might have lower test because you avoid it.

Like I said, watch the video snippet and do some research. Being overweight places you at risk for heart disease, not eating fat.

[uvawahoowa]

Debunked? What's the leading cause of of death in America? Heart disease. What country consumes the most from dairy/animal sources which are high in saturated fat? USA. I don't mean be blatant but it makes sense and there are a lot of studies that back it up.

Also a diet high in carbs but also a very sedentary population. Come on, you can't be that naive.