- 04-21-2012, 06:15 AM
I just started reading these forums so please correct me if I am wrong. I am seeing many people discount the benefits of casein protein before bed. I currently work with nutritionists and professional bodybuilders and every single bodybuilder takes some kind of slow digesting protein before bed. I read an article on here that said your body will be digesting the casein and using energy which will impact your gains. This almost made me laugh. Your body needs fuel 24/7 to work, even in sleep. If you do not have fuel, it uses other means to fuel itself, AKA your muscle/fat. Casein provides that fuel for your muscles to continue to build all throughout the night. Not eating before bed is just the same as not eating during the day. Without that protein you are in a sense reducing your gains. I am in no way saying that casein is the ONLY thing you should eat before bed, but slower digesting things are preferred unless you want to wake up in the middle of the night and eat. Please feel free to comment on your experiences with casein.
- 04-21-2012, 07:11 AM
Yeah I've been taking casein or eating cottage cheese before bed for about 5 months now... Definitely noticed my muscles are a lot fuller since then and I also seem leaner. I'm actually a bit lost without it...
Im like a child addicted to warm milk before bed now! :-P
- 04-21-2012, 07:48 AM
So I take it that youre not a fan of lean gains/ intermittent fasting? That thinking is based on the notion that significant muscle breakdown doesnt occur for up to 24-48 hours of fasting.
04-21-2012, 03:29 PM
So the way I'm understanding that is that I can only eat every other day and still gain muscle because it won't break down for 24 hours? If so, sounds a bit silly to me
04-21-2012, 03:50 PM
04-22-2012, 02:19 AM
Caesin is not needed.. Hit your macros for the day is all that you should be worried about. Get it from any protein at night & it dosen't have to be caesin.
04-22-2012, 02:46 AM
drinkin casein before bed just makes me piss all night-hense lose sleep which is probably more detrimental, real food is better in my experience
04-22-2012, 06:11 AM
You could also try half a scoop of casein in 250g of cottage cheese before bed so you get the benefit of whole foods. Thats one of my favorite pre bed meals.
I'll drink just casein if i am cutting though.
04-22-2012, 12:40 PM
This is extreme reductionism/simplification of a very complex system. There are a multitude of hormones that regulate "fuel" in the blood stream. Further, the free amino acid pool does not dissapear, nor does it start breaking down "expensive" muscle proteins for specific amino acids when it does run low.
04-22-2012, 10:03 PM
04-23-2012, 09:46 PM
i cannot believe that people are so obtuse and delusional to believe that you have to constantly be eating to gain muscle.
it's absurd and isn't backed by any shred of evidence. our bodies don't need a constant stream of nutrients. if that was the case, we wouldn't have an intestines, and we wouldn't store nutrients. OUR BODIES AREN'T A FUEL TANK. we don't simply put a certain amount in, and so many hours or miles go by and it's gone.
i GAIN MUSCLE AND STRENGTH not eating for 20 hours and lifting on a completely empty stomach.
it is fact. it is repeatable as well.
i cannot believe i dignified this thoughtless, half-baked thread with a response.
For me, the action IS the juice.
04-24-2012, 08:33 AM
Yeah, thats why i brought up the lean gains protocol... I mean, to each their own, but before you start agonizing about how much of which protein to take before bed, you should know theres a growing group of bodybuilders that are getting more and more ripped and are fasting up to 24 hours at a time. These are the people that would see breaking a fast before bed, as opposed to starting it, as detrimental to tgat day's "burn". There is dcience behind it as well, insulin sensitivity being a big one.
04-24-2012, 09:29 AM
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05-03-2012, 03:27 AM
Before one month i was looked too fat but when i started take Protein shakes in my diet and also take it after workout, then Gradually My fat has been decrease..Now present I looking slim body...
05-12-2012, 09:31 PM
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05-18-2012, 09:19 PM
I've got a tub of casein and I will probably not be buying another. I prefer to get my protein from food and since I've been dealing in this way I have personally put on more weight than I was ever able to do with all of the supps that they were pushing on me in high school. If I need more casein I'll just drink a bunch of milk before bed!
06-07-2012, 10:05 AM
06-09-2012, 05:45 PM
Why not just eat what you feel like if it fits in for last meal,saying if you like turkey and cottage cheese eat that or i friggin hunk of cheese and some broccoli,i know what i like and that works for "me"tried about everything but as for "me"seems 2oz low fat chedder/2oz turkey some califlower and almonds or walnuts does the trick.
I change from night to night so i dont get bored,cottage/casien shake/whole eggs,cheese,ect..eat want you want and live.you know(or will find)what works best for "you"and that you like.
06-10-2012, 05:47 AM
06-11-2012, 03:41 AM
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
06-11-2012, 03:33 PM
06-11-2012, 04:20 PM
Casein is awesome for making protein brownies. There's a funny tutorial on how it's done, by Scivation, on youtube
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