Fat at night?
- 04-04-2011, 08:07 PM
Fat at night?
Ok, this is probably a fairly stupid question...
I have been doing Keto for a while now, and it never hit me until today when I started wondering... I mean, back in the day of having carbs, it was always the whole "eat your carbs in the morning and then fade them into just proteins as the day progresses". Long story short, protein only when closer to bed time.
How does that work for fat? Same deal? I was wondering as I was pouring olive oil on my chicken for dinner, works the same way? Keeping it just protein at night, no fat as well? Perhaps little fat?
I just wonder as I probably get a fair amount mid - late in the day so that's why I wonder.
What are you guys thoughts on this?Androhard + Andromass Log
- 04-04-2011, 08:31 PM
I have always had my largest fat content meal literally right before bed. Done it this way for about a decade.
Fats do more than just provide energy in the absence of carbs, they help to rebuild and repair your muscles as well. That's why I've always done my largest fat meal right before the longest period of time I'm going to go without eating again ie. right before bed.
just one persons take on it
04-04-2011, 08:35 PM
04-04-2011, 08:41 PM
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04-04-2011, 08:51 PM
Superb, I will continue loading the heck out of my last meal with Olive Oil and sh!t.
I really enjoy my late meal being one of those tasty crappy burgers that I buy in big a$$ box from Sam's club.
Will continue doing so then and not worry so much.
Androhard + Andromass Log
04-05-2011, 12:28 AM
I just read in article by Hyght that a ton of fat before bed "can suppress hormone-sensitive lipase (HSL), which is needed to break down fat."
It's mentioned that the fat content in the study was significant (~40g) but the concept might still be something to consider for someone interested in fat loss.
04-05-2011, 06:31 AM
04-13-2011, 06:35 PM
I normally just have a glass of organic lactose free milk (yum yum) and two Titan cookies (20grams protein) or have egg whites with pb/toast
not clean i know... but I don't feel it's made me fattier.
04-13-2011, 06:37 PM
04-13-2011, 06:41 PM
i taper my fat down at night just because by that time i dont need the energy
my calories look like this per meal
on workout days (IF type diet)
04-13-2011, 06:44 PM
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04-14-2011, 11:15 AM
I've also seen ON and Cytosport Micellar... I've also been thinking about getting a bag of Casein from Protein Factory. http://proteinfactory.com/shop/produ...34&page=1#tabs
04-14-2011, 12:01 PM
Try Ultra Peptide 2.0 by Xtreme Formulations. THE best tasting casein supp you will ever have. Lemon Creme Pie is my favorite but the cinnamon Roll is a close second.
04-14-2011, 12:04 PM
i love the choc supreme ,, i apart from my post workout meal,, i love this meal be4 bed,,
but the vanilla was sick,, i had 2 hold my nose while trying drink it,,
if u dont like them,, what about cottage cheese ,, thats good also,, i just prefair the shakes,, with 90%water 10%milk,, and 50g peanut butter,, good meal be4 bed time,,
04-14-2011, 12:41 PM
04-14-2011, 12:58 PM
When I'm not feeling really lazy at night, I have 5 whole eggs and 4 strips of uncured bacon before bed. If I'm lazy, which is most of the time, I'll have an egg/casein shake with 2 oz of mixed nuts. Either way, it's well over 30g of fat.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
04-15-2011, 01:37 AM
just fyi, ive read tat eating 40g fat+ before bed inhibits hormone sensitive lipase , a fat burning hormone.
For me, the action IS the juice.
04-16-2011, 09:50 AM
04-20-2011, 03:27 AM
A quote from the article reads, "There's evidence that consuming a large amount of fat (a "fat load") suppresses hormone sensitive lipase (HSL), which is needed to break down fat. (1) Although the fat load in this study was more than a savvy trainee would normally consume in one meal (40g)."
The study is: Effects of an oral and intravenous fat load on adipose tissue and forearm lipid metabolism. Evans K, Clark ML, Frayn KN.
06-14-2011, 07:27 PM
06-14-2011, 07:32 PM
nm, i found it. Here it is for anyone else who wants to read it
I dunno if I'm down with the limit yourself to 10-15g of fat before bed comment though. I'm a big dude, I need my cals before I hit the sack to keep getting bigger, I don't feel the least bit bad about having 25-30g of fat before bed, sometimes more.
Actually, a year out of high school on a carb cycle diet I got down to 6-7% bf, and loaded all my fat for the day basically right before bed, it was something like 50-60g of fat with 6 plus tablespoons of peanut butter. Didn't seem to hinder my fat loss any, lol.
06-14-2011, 08:15 PM
What's interesting is the study found that there was an increased escape of LPL-derived fatty acids into the circulation from adipose tissue, which seemingly runs counter-intuitive to the point made in the article. Additionally and for what it's worth, the point of the study appears to be whether or not HSL suppression can occur in the absence of insulin (which it appears it can).
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