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    So I've been bulking for about 3 months, and am going to finish with some mass tabs. I'm 6ft tall, 210 lbs, and 17% body fat (from the current Bulk). What I want is to try and maximize the lean muscle I put on from the tabs. I'm going to cut after I finish the cycle. Here's a rough diet, I know it needs work: I'm sorry that fat amounts aren't listed, I have to find where I recorded them.


    Breakfast: Eggs Beaters, Oatmeal, Shake
    Calories: 750
    Carbs: 135
    Protein 85

    Meal #2: Full Mass Gainer Shake + Banana
    Calories: 710
    Carbs: 117
    Protein: 53

    Lunch: Cup of Brown Rice
    Chicken/Turkey/?
    Veggies
    Calories: 750
    Carbs: 75
    Protein: 100

    Workout

    Post Workout: Full Mass Gainer Shake + cup of oatmeal
    Calories: 800
    Carbs: 130
    Protein: 52

    Dinner: Eggs/some kind of meat
    Potatoes
    Salad?
    Calories: 450
    Carbs: 80
    Protein: 45


    Meal #6: (I'm still unsure here, I want a lean protein and healthy fat I guess)
    Calories: 500
    Carbs: 35
    Protein: 15

    Casein Protein Shake’
    Calories: 20
    Carbs: 10
    Protein: 30

    I know it needs work, and I appreciate any help.

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    Hey post pics. I'm 6' 215 and want to see how my BF% compares to you.
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    As for your diet. I'd leave off the weight gainer shakes and replace them with solid food or just regular protein shakes. If you're planning on dieting afterwards there is no point in packing on unneeded fat that you will end up having to lose later when your body isn't in such an anabolic state.
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    I wish I could, I don't have the cord to my camera so I can't get anything up. From the looks of your pic you have a decent amount less than me.

    As far as the diet, yeah I want it to be as lean as possible, but put on the most muscle possible while I'm on the tabs. The shakes are just very convenient because Im in college and am tight on time, so I don't know if I can change that. And I'm going to cut after this..hopefully down to like 12-13% BF. Any other changes in the diet?
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    *whole eggs instead of egg beaters
    *meal 6 you can eat a can of tuna/salmon with veggies
    *more vegetables and less oatmeal, too many complex carbs in the diet.
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    If I eat that many whole eggs a day..my cholesterol is going to be extremely high
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    Whey Protein shakes are just as easy as your weight gainer ones. I've been a college student the past 6 years and without Whey Powder I would be completely broke. It's cheap, it's protein, and it'll not very caloric. I probably take too much of my protein through shakes but I don't cook so it's the only way I can reach 350-400g of protein a day without being 400 pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by getbig89 View Post
    If I eat that many whole eggs a day..my cholesterol is going to be extremely high
    no, there is no scientific proof that dietary cholesterol increases blood cholesterol. also, the more cholesterol you eat the less your liver produces and vice versa. cholesterol is actually in all your cells and is crucial to a good hormone balance. all the bad rep cholesterol has gotten is based on the lipid hypothesis from the early 1900s.
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    Wow I never knew that..okay thanks... Can I use eggs whites in addition to them?

    And as far as the mass gainer shakes, I used them to get above the maintain calorie level and the amt of carbs... so I guess I can replace them with food. But then at my height and weight, how many carbs and calories should i be aiming for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by getbig89 View Post
    Wow I never knew that..okay thanks... Can I use eggs whites in addition to them?

    And as far as the mass gainer shakes, I used them to get above the maintain calorie level and the amt of carbs... so I guess I can replace them with food. But then at my height and weight, how many carbs and calories should i be aiming for?
    you can add eggwhites but the best way to go is eat whole eggs, as many as you want. read my thread "is anyone else an egg maniac".

    there are calorie calculators out there to tell you the exact amount. for maintenance you should probably eat at least 3500, more if you are working out alot. definitely ditch the mass gainer shakes, cook chicken/steak/fish eat eat eat eat
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    Alright I'm going to redo this diet and re-post it later today. thanks for the help
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    Okay so I've done some revising. I think it may still need some more protein..so I need some ideas on how to add in more. Also I'm not sure on how many carbs I should be aiming for, but I can add/subtract them easily since I'll be using dextrose powder. Also, to add/subtract calories or fat I can use olive oil.


    Revised Diet

    Breakfast: 2 egg yolks, 6 egg whites
    Cup of Oatmeal w/ Peanutbutter
    Banana
    740 Calories
    78g carbs
    22g fat
    45 g protein

    In between this I will take 3 tbs of olive oil
    375 cals, 42 g fat

    Meal #2 : Cup Brown Rice
    Lean Beef
    700 calories
    45 g carbs
    54g protein
    32 g fat
    PWO: Whey Protein
    Dextrose Powder
    40 g protein
    80 carbs
    300 calories

    Meal #3: Chicken Breast
    Cup of Rice
    520 cals
    45g carbs
    62g protein
    5 g fat

    Dinner: Turkey
    Green Beans
    350 cals
    50 g protein
    10g carbs
    7g fat

    Meal #5: 2 cans chicken (I can’t stand tuna…) w/ light mayo
    Edimame
    90 g protein
    800 cals
    18 carbs
    27g fat

    Before Bed: Casein Protein Shake
    25g protein
    140 cals

    60 cals added from fish oil throughout the day…
    I will probably also add in milk with some dextrose for extra carbs..

    TOTAL:
    4000 calories
    360g protein
    135g fat
    316 g carbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by getbig89 View Post
    Okay so I've done some revising. I think it may still need some more protein..so I need some ideas on how to add in more. Also I'm not sure on how many carbs I should be aiming for, but I can add/subtract them easily since I'll be using dextrose powder. Also, to add/subtract calories or fat I can use olive oil.


    Revised Diet

    Breakfast: 2 egg yolks, 6 egg whites
    Cup of Oatmeal w/ Peanutbutter
    Banana
    740 Calories
    78g carbs
    22g fat
    45 g protein

    In between this I will take 3 tbs of olive oil
    375 cals, 42 g fat

    Meal #2 : Cup Brown Rice
    Lean Beef
    700 calories
    45 g carbs
    54g protein
    32 g fat
    PWO: Whey Protein
    Dextrose Powder
    40 g protein
    80 carbs
    300 calories

    Meal #3: Chicken Breast
    Cup of Rice
    520 cals
    45g carbs
    62g protein
    5 g fat

    Dinner: Turkey
    Green Beans
    350 cals
    50 g protein
    10g carbs
    7g fat

    Meal #5: 2 cans chicken (I can’t stand tuna…) w/ light mayo
    Edimame
    90 g protein
    800 cals
    18 carbs
    27g fat

    Before Bed: Casein Protein Shake
    25g protein
    140 cals

    60 cals added from fish oil throughout the day…
    I will probably also add in milk with some dextrose for extra carbs..

    TOTAL:
    4000 calories
    360g protein
    135g fat
    316 g carbs
    Looks like a winner to me!
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    Looking this over, I think I may cut out the 3 tsp of olive oil which will remove about 1/3 of the fat, and add in high carb vegetable at meal 2, since the amount of fat the I currently have listed is about 31% of the diet
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    Quote Originally Posted by getbig89 View Post
    Looking this over, I think I may cut out the 3 tsp of olive oil which will remove about 1/3 of the fat, and add in high carb vegetable at meal 2, since the amount of fat the I currently have listed is about 31% of the diet
    never cut the fat. 30% is the minimum you should have in the diet.
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    fat will be stored as energy. if you are referring to a highly glycemic vegetable (starch) then it will only be stored as fat unles consumed immediately post workout
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    Alright, then I'll keep the olive oil in. and as far as the vegetable, I was just thinking of adding that because I didnt know if 300 carbs was enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by getbig89 View Post
    Alright, then I'll keep the olive oil in. and as far as the vegetable, I was just thinking of adding that because I didnt know if 300 carbs was enough
    way more than enough. ill probably get flamed but anything over 150-180 is getting stored as fat, unles you are a marathon runner burning 10000 cals a day. theres just no need for all those carbs. some goes to replenish glycogen but you dont need that many for that. 300 grams of carbs a day, especially highly glycemic carbs, definitely leads to fat gain.
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    You think I should cut some out? Most of them are coming early in the day/ Post workout
    I want this to be as lean as possible, but put on a good amount of muscle (don't we all..) that I dont lose.
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    If you send me all of your Mass Tabs I will be able to better determine your fat % and then I'll send them right back
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    Oh okay sure I'll get right on that..lol
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    uhm if you cut right after a cycle of anabolics (mass tabs are hormonal right?) your going to loose ALL the muscle mass you gained, you need to KEEP eating big during pct and preferably a month after pct too to solidify muscle mass/gains


    do what you want
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    Damn alright that sounds good
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    Quote Originally Posted by getbig89 View Post
    You think I should cut some out? Most of them are coming early in the day/ Post workout
    I want this to be as lean as possible, but put on a good amount of muscle (don't we all..) that I dont lose.
    yea its not the carbs that keep/put weight on, its the calories. if anything its easier to get the calories from fat since there is 9 cals per gram. take in under 200 grams of carbs in form of vegetables, some fruit and some red potatoes post workout. up the fat. eat a dozen eggs and a steak a day. thats what will lean you out and keep the mass on.
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    the carbs im getting now are mostly complex, and are mostly before or post workout. I can cut some of them out though.

    And as far as the steak and eggs...Should I change the diet more then? or is that more like a guideline?
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    Quote Originally Posted by getbig89 View Post
    the carbs im getting now are mostly complex, and are mostly before or post workout. I can cut some of them out though.

    And as far as the steak and eggs...Should I change the diet more then? or is that more like a guideline?
    excess complex carbs are adding to your bodyfat. you only need a little bit post workout to replenish glycogen.

    yea you dont have to have a super structured diet. main foods: eggs, vegetables, steak, chicken, fish, fruit, some nuts, olive oil, little bit of red potatoes post workout. just eat lots of those foods, vegetables with every meal. take fish oil. rotate which ever foods from that list you have and you are good.
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    Alright cool, I think I have a good idea now, thanks
  

  
 

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